re: I don’t think I can support either side anymore

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Not sure why this is difficult to understand

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Because "terminate" is murder.

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ban contraceptives, ban porn, and essentially make sex that is not for procreation illegal

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Nobody is doing any of these things

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Conservatives/Republicans here want to act like they're not going after a lot of forms of contraceptives next. You'll lose access to a majority of them within a few years once the SCOTUS overturns Griswold. At least one justice is telegraphing that's what he wants to do and it is in no way unreasonable to think he will easily have another 2-3 on his side at an absolute minimum. Realistically we know that 5 is the most likely if they're overturning Roe.

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Nobody is this stupid.

Like those opposed to murdering the unborn don’t like to frick, and aren’t down with eighteen kids and a wife that looks like, umm, like she had eighteen kids.

STFU

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But if the end goal of the conservatives is to ban contraceptives, ban porn, and essentially make sex that is not for procreation illegal, then you are out of your frickin minds.

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What do you care what another state or country does...?

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Conservatives/Republicans here want to act like they're not going after a lot of forms of contraceptives next. You'll lose access to a majority of them within a few years once the SCOTUS overturns Griswold. At least one justice is telegraphing that's what he wants to do and it is in no way unreasonable to think he will easily have another 2-3 on his side at an absolute minimum. Realistically we know that 5 is the most likely if they're overturning Roe.

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Just because there is no longer an unconstitutional federal requirement for contraceptives to be legal doesn't mean any state would ban them. There is absolutely no political pressure from anyone to ban contraceptives.

Even if one state bans all contraceptives, guess what, you have 49 other to which to move. Choose one that fits your political beliefs.

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First trimester id disagree is an unborn child

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#science

Any other mammal on earth is pregnant and we acknowledge that it is indeed pregnant with an unborn mammal. Humans on the other hand, we deny science so we can make excuses for reckless behavior. This is denying reality.

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He made the kid he can pay for it.

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All for this. I think there should be really strict rules regarding dead beat dads and fathering children with multiple women. It’s destroying our society.

Even people who don’t care about the moral aspect cannot deny the destruction of the family has had awful consequences on our country

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One has nothing to do with the other. First trimester id disagree is an unborn child. And nah it seems like this board jumps all on the “irresponsible female” but it takes two to tango. He made the kid he can pay for it. It’s growing inside her so she is the one with the right to terminate if she chooses. Not sure why this is difficult to understand

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Every time you take a break from being a Reddit widget on this board you reveal the incredible depths of your stupidity.

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A fetus (especially in the first trimester) isn’t a baby.

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It’s a human being. If you doubt that, I can loan you a science book from my daughter who is elementary school. I am sure everyone remembers the simple life cycle diagram. For humans and animals it begin with fertilization and ended with death. For plants it begin with germination. The problem with the left is they try to redefine everything to match their narrative.

This isn’t a fight for personal rights, it’s a fight for personal responsibility. The left doesn’t want people to be held responsible for their actions and the right does. Why should another human being have to pay for the actions of another?