- My Forums
- Tiger Rant
- LSU Recruiting
- SEC Rant
- Saints Talk
- Pelicans Talk
- More Sports Board
- Coaching Changes
- Fantasy Sports
- Golf Board
- Soccer Board
- O-T Lounge
- Tech Board
- Home/Garden Board
- Outdoor Board
- Health/Fitness Board
- Movie/TV Board
- Book Board
- Music Board
- Political Talk
- Money Talk
- Fark Board
- Gaming Board
- Travel Board
- Food/Drink Board
- Ticket Exchange
- TD Help Board
Customize My Forums- View All Forums
- Show Left Links
- Topic Sort Options
- Trending Topics
- Recent Topics
- Active Topics
Started By
Message
re: I Can't Hold Back On This Any Longer; For Those Who Mock & Ridicule DOGE - TELL ME WHY
Posted on 3/10/25 at 10:53 am to AggieHank86
Posted on 3/10/25 at 10:53 am to AggieHank86
quote:
They should be using a scalpel, not a blunderbuss.
With the level of gross mismanagement being so rampant, absolutely not. A scalpel would only have shown us surface level. There’s a reason Milei presented a chainsaw to Musk.
0
Posted on 3/10/25 at 10:54 am to Clyde Tipton
My best guess is that those who are opposed to it, do not want to interrupt their cash flow from the programs that are eliminated. Just a wild guess!
Posted on 3/10/25 at 10:55 am to KCT
I'm not against the idea of DOGE. However they are only putting on a bandaid.
Until spending habits are changed what they do means nothing.
Also I don't like the idea of firing normal working people because 1 percent of DC was stealing. Why should they have to pay the price while the criminals get away with millions?
Until spending habits are changed what they do means nothing.
Also I don't like the idea of firing normal working people because 1 percent of DC was stealing. Why should they have to pay the price while the criminals get away with millions?
This post was edited on 3/10/25 at 11:18 am
Posted on 3/10/25 at 10:56 am to KCT
They're just following their marching orders
Posted on 3/10/25 at 10:57 am to POTUS2024
quote:
great idea, execution is shite
You talking about DOGE? Or Ron's run for the presidency?
Posted on 3/10/25 at 10:57 am to RelicBatches86
quote:
firing people in a haste then re-hiring them is a sign of of incompetence
Hasn't Musk himself said that some mistakes are inevitable and that they will correct those mistakes?
quote:
Clinton did this 30 years ago
Unfortunately, it's past time to do it again. Regarding the firings, I'd say there's a reason why Northern Virginia has turned that state blue. Many of those federal workers know they have a gravy train going, and they also know that almost all Democrats are in favor of Big Government.
Posted on 3/10/25 at 11:02 am to momentoftruth87
quote:
Comes down to tds. There’s no other explanation of why ppl wouldn’t want this done.
Please, one of the downvoters to that post, refute what was said. I'm willing to bet no one has a good argument.
Posted on 3/10/25 at 11:04 am to RelicBatches86
quote:
programs that Musk doesnt agree with politically is not fraud
Fraud isn’t the measuring stick. The E in DOGE stands for efficiency. Yeah, there’s definitely some fraud involved but It’s the waste and bloat that’s eating us alive.
Posted on 3/10/25 at 11:05 am to AggieHank86
quote:
They should be using a scalpel, not a blunderbuss.
We are $36 trillion in debt. Using a scalpel would never make a difference.
Posted on 3/10/25 at 11:08 am to Clyde Tipton
quote:
My concern is with the IMPLEMENTATION. They threw open a door and fired a blunderbuss into the room, probably doing as much damage as good. They should be using a scalpel, not a blunderbuss.
It's not even really a scapel they should use.
If they would have just started the RIF process and completed it per agency regs then it would be perfect and much cleaner.
Instead they dicked around with their previous methods for a month or so and got sued for using OPM to direct RIFs when legally it has to come from the agency heads.
People saying firing mass amount of folks and hiring back the good ones don't really understand how the Federal hiring process works and is stated in regulations passed by Congress.
The people being reinstated (probies) are doing so because they were illegally fired. Had the administration just started with an RIF then probies would be the first to go and you wouldn't have these issues with the courts.
Posted on 3/10/25 at 11:10 am to KCT
quote:
That being said, there is a contingent of people here who aren't on board with it. I think the most often-heard complaint is that it won't really accomplish anything. (Not my view at all, but that's what some here have stated).
I've heard this, too. The common argument is that defense and entitlement is so big that we could zero-out everything else and not make a difference, or something like that.
But if we start trimming a few billion here, a few billion there, doesn't it do something?
And also if we stop USAID from funding groups such as Hamas that are directly against us, how many billions in defense to do we save not having to fight Hamas as much?
Posted on 3/10/25 at 11:17 am to tadman
quote:
But if we start trimming a few billion here, a few billion there, doesn't it do something?
This is the part I don't mind.
However, the people that remain in Fedgov after the RIFs aren't going to be the young ones, the best and brightest.
It's going to be the boomers that have been in government for 15-20 years. Or older folks that are retirement age but are too fiscally irresponsible to retire.
That's because RIFs retain folks that have many years of service. Performance reviews are utilized but not to the extent as tenure
Posted on 3/10/25 at 11:23 am to KCT
quote:
1) For those who don't think DOGE was a good idea, tell us why. Please be specific.
ELON WANTS YOUR SSN RRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Posted on 3/10/25 at 11:43 am to KCT
Valid criticisms of DOGE:
All actions seem to be taken impulsively, without thought of long-term implications
The motivation for cuts is preserving the tax cuts for the rich and corporations that will be locked in later this year, not helping the middle class or Americans who are not already wealthy
Musk claims to be anti corruption but fired all the inspectors general who provide that oversight
DOGE doesn't have the authority to reallocate congressional spending, so even if all the halts they've put in place or gotten Trump to put in place survive judicial scrutiny - what actually happens to that money? DOGE doesn't know nor does it have the authority to spend that money.
The most obvious place to look for waste and corruption is the Dept of Defense. The DoD has NEVER been able to pass an audit. But Musk is focused on USAID instead. why?
All actions seem to be taken impulsively, without thought of long-term implications
The motivation for cuts is preserving the tax cuts for the rich and corporations that will be locked in later this year, not helping the middle class or Americans who are not already wealthy
Musk claims to be anti corruption but fired all the inspectors general who provide that oversight
DOGE doesn't have the authority to reallocate congressional spending, so even if all the halts they've put in place or gotten Trump to put in place survive judicial scrutiny - what actually happens to that money? DOGE doesn't know nor does it have the authority to spend that money.
The most obvious place to look for waste and corruption is the Dept of Defense. The DoD has NEVER been able to pass an audit. But Musk is focused on USAID instead. why?
Posted on 3/10/25 at 11:44 am to 4cubbies
quote:'
The motivation for cuts is preserving the tax cuts for the rich and corporations
FJC, marxists cant help themselves.
Posted on 3/10/25 at 11:45 am to gaetti15
quote:
However, the people that remain in Fedgov after the RIFs aren't going to be the young ones, the best and brightest.
Yep, my only issue with the fed cuts is that they went after new hires and not the Obama era bureacrats who are THE problem.
Posted on 3/10/25 at 11:45 am to 4cubbies
quote:
Musk claims to be anti corruption but fired all the inspectors general who provide that oversight
He can’t fire people
quote:
The motivation for cuts is preserving the tax cuts for the rich and corporations that will be locked in later this year, not helping the middle class or Americans who are not already wealthy
This is just an opinion with no truth to it whatsoever
quote:
DOGE doesn't have the authority to reallocate congressional spending, so even if all the halts they've put in place or gotten Trump to put in place survive judicial scrutiny - what actually happens to that money? DOGE doesn't know nor does it have the authority to spend that money.
Some truth for once
quote:
The most obvious place to look for waste and corruption is the Dept of Defense. The DoD has NEVER been able to pass an audit. But Musk is focused on USAID instead. why?
Musk has already stated DOD is coming up
Posted on 3/10/25 at 11:46 am to gaetti15
Democrate game plan for Trump 2, is to file thousands of frivolous suits to slow the roll.
Republicans game plan was to run as fast as possible into the deep state operation, with the objective of exposing horrendous waste, which gathers public support into the implementation of permanent policy change.
Republicans have won thus far. To go farther, there must be criminal charges filed against the worst offenders
Republicans game plan was to run as fast as possible into the deep state operation, with the objective of exposing horrendous waste, which gathers public support into the implementation of permanent policy change.
Republicans have won thus far. To go farther, there must be criminal charges filed against the worst offenders
Posted on 3/10/25 at 11:48 am to Mushroom1968
quote:
He can’t fire people
Semantics games.
quote:
This is just an opinion with no truth to it whatsoever
And any defense of DOGE is just an opinion with no truth to it whatsoever.
quote:
Musk has already stated DOD is coming up
So you agree that they haven't done jack shite about the DoD.
Page 2 of 4
Popular
Back to top
Follow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News