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I assume this company and all employees are reporting this as income right?

Posted on 12/8/22 at 8:49 pm
Posted by dafif
Member since Jan 2019
5539 posts
Posted on 12/8/22 at 8:49 pm
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Disney World Park Shuts Down Completely for One Billionaire Business Owner


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Last weekend, Citadel Securities founder Ken Griffin treated his employees, their partners, and their children to an all-inclusive spectacular weekend at Disney World. Approximately 10,000 people were in attendance for the celebration weekend–25% of them children.


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Griffin, who has an estimated net worth of more than $32 billion, is said to have covered expenses for everyone in attendance, including expenses for each Guest’s hotel accommodations, food, theme park tickets, and more.


My tax knowledge would say this is an in kind payment and must be income. Perhaps the company can be raided by the doj/irs/ fbi and a host of 3 letter pos
Posted by j1897
Member since Nov 2011
3560 posts
Posted on 12/8/22 at 8:54 pm to
Na, Campbells soup did this a few years ago, it's pretty common really.
Posted by dafif
Member since Jan 2019
5539 posts
Posted on 12/8/22 at 8:56 pm to
Explain how this is not income?
Posted by BobBoucher
Member since Jan 2008
16715 posts
Posted on 12/8/22 at 8:57 pm to
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Disney World Park Shuts Down Completely for One Billionaire Business Owner


Sounds like some kind of privilege that should be eliminated.

#communism
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
26660 posts
Posted on 12/8/22 at 8:59 pm to
Because it’s not. Companies can provide travel and rewards to employees that are not taxable since they are not cash.

I’ve been on many company trips to exotic locations over the years and never paid taxes on it.

Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118680 posts
Posted on 12/8/22 at 9:07 pm to
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Ken Griffin


That is DeSatis’s big multimillion dollar donor. Same dude that got caught naked shorting GME stock and wallstreetbets Reddit goup caught him with his pants down and he cried to the SEC and regulators put pressure on brokerage firms like Robinhood to limit GME purchases to help his firm cover his shorts.

Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118680 posts
Posted on 12/8/22 at 9:10 pm to
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Because it’s not.


Because is last name is not Trump.
Posted by ScottAndrew
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Aug 2009
954 posts
Posted on 12/8/22 at 9:10 pm to
I THINK the expenses associated with non employee family are but not employee. At least that’s how it works at my company
Posted by BFIV
Virginia
Member since Apr 2012
7709 posts
Posted on 12/8/22 at 9:17 pm to
I would think that if this is tax deductible to Citadel Securities, then it is taxable to the recipients.
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
War Damn Eagle Dad!
Member since Oct 2010
105389 posts
Posted on 12/8/22 at 9:37 pm to
IRS says

Posted by SippyCup
Gulf Coast
Member since Sep 2008
6139 posts
Posted on 12/8/22 at 9:57 pm to
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On Friday evening, Griffin’s guests were treated to an exclusive celebration at EPCOT, during which they had the World Discovery section of the park all to themselves, many of them enjoying the new Guardians of the Galaxy: COSMIC REWIND attraction for the first time.


One small section of Epcot now = all of Disney World. Sensational journalism at its finest.
Posted by TDFreak
Dodge Charger Aficionado
Member since Dec 2009
7351 posts
Posted on 12/8/22 at 10:02 pm to
Is it an apples apples comparison to the Trump case? We’re those employees getting trips or physical gifts? I’m not following that closely.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
42941 posts
Posted on 12/8/22 at 10:11 pm to
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My tax knowledge would say this is an in kind payment and must be income. Perhaps the company can be raided by the doj/irs/ fbi and a host of 3 letter pos
In my experience, companies who hold these events have a short business meeting of some sort, so they can claim it is business travel for the employee.

Spouse and kids expenses MAY be taxable. IRS
This post was edited on 12/8/22 at 10:22 pm
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
48128 posts
Posted on 12/8/22 at 10:16 pm to
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Because it’s not. Companies can provide travel and rewards to employees that are not taxable since they are not cash. I’ve been on many company trips to exotic locations over the years and never paid taxes on it.


It not being cash has literally nothing to do with it. De minimus or business expense is what you are looking for. Not being cash is the wrong answer. The Paul Hornung case is one of the first they bring up in income tax 1.
This post was edited on 12/8/22 at 10:23 pm
Posted by thelawnwranglers
Member since Sep 2007
38745 posts
Posted on 12/8/22 at 10:19 pm to
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Explain how this is not income?


Call it company meeting

Posted by mytigger
Member since Jan 2008
14842 posts
Posted on 12/8/22 at 10:40 pm to
Wrong. You think things like executive retreats are treated as income? Uh, no.
Posted by VolcanicTiger
Member since Apr 2022
5933 posts
Posted on 12/9/22 at 12:11 am to
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Call it company meeting
"Team-building exercise."
Posted by dafif
Member since Jan 2019
5539 posts
Posted on 12/9/22 at 5:52 am to
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Because it’s not.


Great analysis!

The first sentence in the tax code “all income from whatever source derived”

It is a benefit … period
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
259936 posts
Posted on 12/9/22 at 6:03 am to
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My tax knowledge would say this is an in kind payment and must be income. Perhaps the company can be raided by the doj/irs/ fbi and a host of 3 letter pos


Why are we wanting this to happen?
Posted by Nosevens
Member since Apr 2019
10258 posts
Posted on 12/9/22 at 6:11 am to
Gifts of that are considered perks as in bonuses which is taxable
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