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re: I applaud my company for thinking outside the box on inclusive hiring

Posted on 4/30/21 at 1:49 pm to
Posted by sawtooth
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2017
3588 posts
Posted on 4/30/21 at 1:49 pm to
We must work for the same company. Hiring and promoting based solely on race. What would possibly go wrong....
Posted by Crimson K
Tuscaloosa
Member since Dec 2018
7104 posts
Posted on 4/30/21 at 2:00 pm to
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Gonna be great when this applies to heart surgeons
. Already applies to pilots.
Posted by MFn GIMP
Member since Feb 2011
22765 posts
Posted on 4/30/21 at 2:09 pm to
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#1 99.7% of jobs under VP no longer have a degree requirement


Fully support.
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
37010 posts
Posted on 4/30/21 at 2:35 pm to
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#1 99.7% of jobs under VP no longer have a degree requirement or years of experience requirement

#2 Rooney Rule insures all roles have to have multiple interviews with underrepresented groups

#3 Partnering with HR to figure out how to discipline Leader positions that don't hire diversely enough

Functionally what this means is that we are moving to a Patron system where the talent pipeline will move via the Equality and Belonging networking groups (I've suspected this is already happening) with zero roadblocks to keep out insufficiently talented applicants.

It's not hard running a cash register. Making change can be a bit stressful but most people use credit cards.
Posted by AtlantaLSUfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2009
26651 posts
Posted on 4/30/21 at 2:37 pm to
We haven’t hired a white person in 2 years. We should just but a banner on our ads “White people don’t waste your time we only hire non-whites”.

I weep for this country.
Posted by GetmorewithLes
UK Basketball Fan
Member since Jan 2011
22173 posts
Posted on 4/30/21 at 2:40 pm to
Subtract one DV. I made a mistake on my vote!

But it was a diverse vote...
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
170583 posts
Posted on 4/30/21 at 2:41 pm to
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We haven’t hired a white person in 2 years.

Do you hire people often? What size company?
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
21770 posts
Posted on 4/30/21 at 2:42 pm to
Like we're now seeing with white supremacy and hate crimes, the demand for diversity in the workforce will far outweigh the supply. What are we going to do when we run out of blacks and trannies to hire/promote?
This post was edited on 4/30/21 at 2:43 pm
Posted by Muthsera
Member since Jun 2017
7319 posts
Posted on 4/30/21 at 3:04 pm to
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#1 99.7% of jobs under VP no longer have a degree requirement

Fully support


Okay, so in general I agree with the removal of degree requirements for many jobs.

HOWEVER, what this looks like in practice for many jobs at my company is a soup of word salad in the job description.

quote:

Job: Quality Specialist (E-Comm)

Who you are: Dynamic change agent who loves to solve problems.

Roles and Responsibilities:

Quality Analysis
Specialization Anlaysis
E-Comm Analysis


Obviously this is over the top, but this is the shite they write up for two different jobs: one that pays 32k in the Bay Area and the other that pays 132k in New York City. The listings are so insanely devoid of description so as to not offend applicants that might not be qualified that I'm not sure how anyone, let alone an outside applicant would actually know what the job does and what skills are necessary.

Not only is it incredibly inefficient, it's embarrassing.

And in just the last two years I've seen a surfeit of new HQ positions open and staffed by CC grads and career secretaries, mostly in the HR dept which was easily doubled or tripled in size while other depts have radically downsized.
This post was edited on 4/30/21 at 3:07 pm
Posted by ABearsFanNMS
Formerly of tLandmass now in Texas
Member since Oct 2014
19816 posts
Posted on 4/30/21 at 3:10 pm to
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why not just hire the best person for a job and screw all that other useless stuff?


This, I have never seen anyone say I need to hire a white guy! Business men hire the best person so they can make them more profitable. Skin color, gender and sexual preference has nothing to do about this!
Posted by AUMIS01
Atlanta
Member since May 2020
1405 posts
Posted on 4/30/21 at 4:19 pm to
I hired a black man this week. He has 25 years experience, referrals from a couple of very well respected former employees, wants to train the next generation of people in his area of expertise and will fill an extremely critical role for us for some undetermined period of time. His skin color was several feet off the page of reasons why we extended the offer. If we all were allowed to hire that way this world would be a much better place.
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
25041 posts
Posted on 4/30/21 at 4:37 pm to
Seems like a very good formula for making a company rot from the inside.
Posted by PUB
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2017
20655 posts
Posted on 4/30/21 at 4:45 pm to
Corporate can lower to Government incompetence
Posted by oldskule
Down South
Member since Mar 2016
23178 posts
Posted on 4/30/21 at 4:49 pm to
Hire the best person for the job!

What is so hard about that?
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
81611 posts
Posted on 4/30/21 at 6:05 pm to
I guess you think PMBOK is racist because they require 7500 documented hours for PMP certification?
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
25041 posts
Posted on 4/30/21 at 6:11 pm to
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Gonna be great when this applies to heart surgeons


Or aircraft mechanics.
Or engineers building bridges.
Or cyber security experts.
Or
Or
Or
Posted by TOSOV
Member since Jan 2016
8922 posts
Posted on 4/30/21 at 6:47 pm to
Did they send out a company notice of all this to save? These 2 kind of sound for a discrimination lawsuit in the making if you are a white male

quote:


#2 Rooney Rule insures all roles have to have multiple interviews with underrepresented groups

#3 Partnering with HR to figure out how to discipline Leader positions that don't hire diversely enough
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
22594 posts
Posted on 4/30/21 at 6:57 pm to
Chavez turned the state oil company into a jobs program for his poorest supporters (along with some cronies). It fell apart very quickly.
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
22594 posts
Posted on 4/30/21 at 6:58 pm to
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These 2 kind of sound for a discrimination lawsuit in the making if you are a white male



Why do you believe the courts would side with a white plaintiff?
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
53640 posts
Posted on 4/30/21 at 7:15 pm to
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99.7% of jobs under VP no longer have a degree requirement or years of experience requirement



This^^^ should be #1 because it’s the absolute dumbest shite I’ve seen or heard of for determining if someone is capable of filling a position.
I can see foregoing a degree if an individual has a shite ton of job experience.
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