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re: Hypothetical: If Trump Imposed A Permanent Ban On Immigration From Muslim Nations, Would..
Posted on 1/2/26 at 6:48 pm to hansenthered1
Posted on 1/2/26 at 6:48 pm to hansenthered1
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The onus would be on the government to find a way to make the ban about something like safety, as in the government of X country was so bad we could not be sure that those coming were actually from that country or that it was not a security threat to let them in.
That's the question I asked. Country X is antagonistic towards the US. It's people overwhelmingly support the narrative/notion of bringing the US to its knees. Immigrants from Country X have perpetrated 20 mass casualty attacks in the US.
Religion is not mentioned in any of that.
And my question is, can we ban people from Country X regardless of their religion or whether Country X is monotheist?
This post was edited on 1/2/26 at 6:49 pm
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Posted on 1/2/26 at 6:57 pm to KCT
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If Trump Imposed A Permanent Ban On Immigration From Muslim Nations,
He can’t. That would require a law. He can only do it through EOs which can be overturned, ergo not permanent.
Posted on 1/2/26 at 6:59 pm to KCT
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the Supreme Court uphold the ban or strike it down?
Only one way to find out.....
The only folks who would be against it are the traitors, Marxist, and greedy fricking scum.
If America doesn't make some type of move like this, this nation will cease to exist as our founding fathers intended.
That's a fact!
Posted on 1/2/26 at 7:00 pm to KCT
Upheld.
Solid statutory authority
Solid statutory authority
Posted on 1/2/26 at 7:59 pm to KCT
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Strike it down as a clear violation of the 1A
Our rights also pertain to citizens of other countries?
Have you ever actually read the First Amendment? Maybe you should.
Regarding religion, it doesn't speak to what people can do. It says what government can't do.
Now granted, it says "Congress shall make no law...", but SCOTUS will always extend that to the executive branch as well.
Posted on 1/2/26 at 8:06 pm to udtiger
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Upheld.
Solid statutory authority
Why didn't a less obviously problematic statute work in Trump 1?
Posted on 1/2/26 at 8:08 pm to BamaGradinTn
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Now granted, it says "Congress shall make no law...", but SCOTUS will always extend that to the executive branch as well.
Well almost any power (possibly any power) the Executive would have in this area would be given via Congress, so the vicarious nature of executive actions would fall within the statutory authority Congress created.
Posted on 1/2/26 at 8:09 pm to Slick Wandoo
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Ask those people on the blown to bits drug boats about those constitutional restrictions, you low IQ moron.
Ask Obama about Abdulrahman Anwar al-Awlaki and constituitional restrictions.
Restrictions to protect Americans...NOT foreigners.
Your emotions are noted.
Posted on 1/2/26 at 8:16 pm to SallysHuman
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Congress critters are not sensitive to the desires of their constituents. Us little people aren’t lobbyists or NGOs or whatever else tickles their voting fancy.
Correct. Only way to fight it is to you know actually fight it.
Or we going to just bet on Congress as it exists currently to create and pass a law that outlaws lobbyists
Posted on 1/2/26 at 8:21 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Your emotions are noted.
Your ignorance is on file.
Posted on 1/2/26 at 8:25 pm to Slick Wandoo
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Your ignorance is on file.
Naw
quote:
Congress shall make no law
Actually read the Constitution one day.
Posted on 1/2/26 at 8:40 pm to hansenthered1
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The SC will strike down any total muslim ban as a violation of the 1A
I do not know what you mean by "total muslim ban" but SCOTUS did not strike down Trump's travel ban in 2017, I highly doubt they will do so in the future.
This post was edited on 1/2/26 at 8:41 pm
Posted on 1/2/26 at 8:42 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Congress shall make no law
Finish it, you moron.
That does not cover foreigners. Idiot!
Posted on 1/2/26 at 8:45 pm to SlowFlowPro
Does the “1A” apply to foreigners? I thought the constitution was of the United States.
Posted on 1/2/26 at 8:45 pm to KCT
Islam is a political ideology dressed up as religion.
Hear me now or believe me later.
Hear me now or believe me later.
Posted on 1/2/26 at 8:49 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Why didn't a less obviously problematic statute work in Trump 1?
It did work. SCOTUS upheld Trump's travel ban in 2018 - Trump v. Hawaii
Posted on 1/2/26 at 8:49 pm to Slick Wandoo
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Finish it, you moron.
That does not cover foreigners. Idiot!
Lol
For the few that believed he was an attorney.
Posted on 1/2/26 at 8:54 pm to p0845330
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Does the “1A” apply to foreigners? I thought the constitution was of the United States.
No, it does not apply to foreigners. BUT - family members residing in the U.S. can bring an action based on the treatment of a foreigner. But it is important to note that according to SCOTUS such claims are not entitled to the same level of scrutiny that they would have if the person resided in the US. In other words, the government's actions will almost always prevail as long as there is some rational basis for it - which almost always there is.
Posted on 1/2/26 at 9:04 pm to KCT
Where does the Constitution say we have to accept any immigrants? Who has the power to determine an immigrant's qualifications to enter? Could the President say immigrants are ineligible for any public assistance for 10 years or until naturalized?
Posted on 1/2/26 at 9:04 pm to gaetti15
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Only way to fight it is to you know actually fight it.
I’m a 5ft female… I can’t fight my way out of a wet paper bag.
I do vote every single opportunity, though.
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