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re: Hypocrites on this board- “Simply hire the best regardless of where they are from”
Posted on 12/28/24 at 2:52 pm to BuckyCheese
Posted on 12/28/24 at 2:52 pm to BuckyCheese
Well then you might wanna think about getting on one. Lol
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Posted on 12/28/24 at 2:53 pm to momentoftruth87
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Yep. That’s why I don’t buy into the outrage because a lot of Americans are lazy.
Mathematicians and Physicists are a different breed. The vast majority never wanted to work, they like to think. I blame Princeton bribing Einstein for this mindset.
The CS, ECE, SWE grads are still having a rough time getting hired in this economy.
They do want to work.
But in all seriousness the major tech firms think AI is going to replace much of the engineering pool.
Looking at how massive the impact has been over the last 12 months I can't blame them.
H1B's can be scrapped at a moments notice. I anticipate a potential bloodbath in all engineering type roles.
This post was edited on 12/28/24 at 2:54 pm
Posted on 12/28/24 at 2:57 pm to Narax
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The CS, ECE, SWE grads are still having a rough time getting hired in this economy.
The WSJ had an article about it. Last night I saw that a Berkeley CS prof stated that even his top students are not finding jobs, not even getting sniffs, whereas several years ago even his mediocre grads had multiple offers from quality firms at good wages.
Posted on 12/28/24 at 3:04 pm to BuckyCheese
Posted on 12/28/24 at 3:05 pm to davidsheroes
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Competition should exist for every opportunity whether it is on the athletic field, in the boardroom or in the hiring line. If you can’t compete, work on yourself, improve yourself. May the best person win.
Good comment EXCEPT it’s not the best person. It’s the cheapest person.
Posted on 12/28/24 at 3:14 pm to BuckyCheese
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The WSJ had an article about it. Last night I saw that a Berkeley CS prof stated that even his top students are not finding jobs, not even getting sniffs, whereas several years ago even his mediocre grads had multiple offers from quality firms at good wages.
It feels like 2008 again.
I do feel that people thinking there aren't enough Americans, or that it's a racist idea to be against H1B don't realize that it's US citizen's of Asian and Indian descent that are also getting passed over for H1B workers.
We graduate a lot of engineers who could take these roles... But especially on the west coast not for those salaries.
Posted on 12/28/24 at 3:24 pm to goldennugget
quote:Leftist shills trying to turn it into a racial thing.
The amount of pretending I am seeing from the cheap foreign labor supporters truly is something else. Heads in the sand.
You have to give credit where it's due. Starting shite is what they do. 'Radicals.' It's all of their training, really. They don't know what to do when they have power, but they're good at disrupting whatever power exists before them.
Posted on 12/28/24 at 3:43 pm to davidsheroes
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Who are you fooling- “Simply hire the best regardless of where they are from” These H1B visas is no big deal when they bring in the best employees from around the world.
The problem is that we have infrastructure here that American families paid for with blood, sweat and tears. You cant just build a great society on the backs of generations of people, then cast them aside for cheap labor willing to live a lifestyle unacceptable to America.
I agree with Musk that we should accept the best and brightest. Panjeet working an IT job is not this.
Posted on 12/28/24 at 3:57 pm to Narax
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It feels like 2008 again.
Go back farther. I remember the same conversation pre 9/11 in 2001. Rinse, recycle, repeat.
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But especially on the west coast not for those salaries.
Not for proper salaries in red states, either. There are plenty of threads about people in DFW that can't find proper jobs, just like I deal with stuck in IAH. Good opportunity, but you want to pay 40% of what I make now? Eh, no.
Posted on 12/28/24 at 5:19 pm to Narax
College professors are overpaid
Posted on 12/28/24 at 5:26 pm to momentoftruth87
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Our Americans ruin private companies by creating unions because they’re entitled yet they can easily be replaced. The big problem is Americans. People just don’t like to hear that or remind themselves of the real problem.
Then what the hell are we using tariffs for to bring manufacturing jobs back to America?
If you are correct that sounds like the biggest lose-lose proposition in history.
Posted on 12/28/24 at 5:26 pm to davidsheroes
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College professors are overpaid
For full Professors, agreed, for the amount of work they do, they are often far overpaid.
In STEM though, a number of the more elite ones generate patents and R&D funding for the college that far exceeds their salaries.
Associate professors make almost nothing though, especially at community and state schools.
They are either young and chasing the full professor route, or older in the field/retired and just looking for pocket change and fun.
I had a psychology professor for an elective who was an ex-FBI agent once.
But yes, it's super cushy for full professors.
Posted on 12/28/24 at 5:30 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Yes, due to govt fiscal policies American labor has priced themselves out of the global economy.
Oh bullshite.
Posted on 12/28/24 at 6:35 pm to davidsheroes
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How do you know that
Where are your quantitative results.
Where's your evidence that the people being brought over are better than all the Americans willing to do the job?
You made the claim, but I don't see the quantitative results.
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