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How should a politician vote - conscience or constituency

Posted on 2/25/21 at 6:42 am
Posted by The Johnny Lawrence
Member since Sep 2016
2162 posts
Posted on 2/25/21 at 6:42 am
The Cassidy thing has me thinking.

There are always votes that come up on issues that were never discussed during the election or campaign. Should the politician vote yes or no based on how he feels about the issue or should he vote yes or no based on how he believes the majority of his constituents would vote? Should you do the peoples' will or do you get to do your will because you gained the support of the people through the election?

Obviously this doesn't consider reelection issues, etc. It also doesn't consider any nefarious dealings, I'm assuming regardless of how the politician votes, it will be because he feels, rightly or wrongly, that it is in the best interest of his constituency.

Just a simple, straightforward hypo.
This post was edited on 2/25/21 at 6:46 am
Posted by The Maj
Member since Sep 2016
27161 posts
Posted on 2/25/21 at 6:43 am to
Best representation of his/her constituency...
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
67493 posts
Posted on 2/25/21 at 6:43 am to
1st politicians have no conscience, and 2nd they should follow the Constitution and what's best for the country.
Posted by baybeefeetz
Member since Sep 2009
31638 posts
Posted on 2/25/21 at 6:44 am to
*conscience
Posted by The Johnny Lawrence
Member since Sep 2016
2162 posts
Posted on 2/25/21 at 6:46 am to
Thanks. It's still early.
Posted by Snipe
Member since Nov 2015
10937 posts
Posted on 2/25/21 at 6:49 am to
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How should a politician vote - conscience or constituency


One would think the two would be the same.


This is the problem with career politicians. Yes?
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
21805 posts
Posted on 2/25/21 at 6:51 am to
I think constituency up to a point. There are frequently political issues that don’t come down firmly for or against one’s personal convictions and values. In those cases I would give a very strong preference to the will of the voters. If the will of the voters trampled on some basic freedoms I’d vote my conscience and they could vote theirs at the next election.
Posted by BeNotDeceivedGal6_7
Member since May 2019
7039 posts
Posted on 2/25/21 at 6:52 am to
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There are always votes that come up on issues that were never discussed during the election or campaign


Issues don't arise out of the blue with the need to be decided that day. With the technology we have, any smart representative would put out a poll to their constituents and stay in touch with the people they represent. Imagine when the next election comes around having the ability to say that they care about the voice of those they represent.

But, most politicians are bought and paid for by lobbyists, so they don't really care what their constituents want, nor do they want them to know how they voted on certain issues.
Posted by 93and99
Dayton , Oh / Allentown , Pa
Member since Dec 2018
14400 posts
Posted on 2/25/21 at 6:54 am to
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How should a politician vote - conscience or constituency



Constituency, unless you want to be a traitor like McCain.
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
57374 posts
Posted on 2/25/21 at 6:58 am to
Well, if they were being honest when they were running, their constituency would have elected them because they trusted their conscience.

The problem is these politicians or lying taint stains and only trying to empower/enrich themselves
This post was edited on 2/25/21 at 6:59 am
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
30201 posts
Posted on 2/25/21 at 6:58 am to
Theoretically, if they fail to align with their constituents then they're voted out come reelection time.
Posted by themunch
Earth. maybe
Member since Jan 2007
64680 posts
Posted on 2/25/21 at 7:01 am to
One’s personal convictions and values should be let known before being elected. Then not set aside for voting. I suppose this is idealistic view.
Posted by GoldenGuy
Member since Oct 2015
10887 posts
Posted on 2/25/21 at 7:03 am to
Both.

In fact, their conscience should be why their constituents voted for them in the first place.

Why are only a few Republicans still loved? Most betray both.

Rand Paul is one of the few Repubs that keeps a conscience but betrays his constituents (this is a detriment to him)
Posted by Wednesday
Member since Aug 2017
15428 posts
Posted on 2/25/21 at 7:05 am to
If you say you’re following the constitution- be able to cite to the constitutional principle that allows a show trial of a private citizen based on hearsay evidence, altered evidence, speculation and no due process.

Don’t tell me you’re “principled” when you can’t even point to what principle it is you are allegedly upholding.

Voting based on your “conscience” is based on nothing other than your own subjective feeling.

Oh and frick Bill Cassidy.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
21805 posts
Posted on 2/25/21 at 7:06 am to
quote:

One’s personal convictions and values should be let known before being elected. Then not set aside for voting. I suppose this is idealistic view.


Absolutely. I’m just saying that a lot of issues aren’t going to violate those regardless of which way you vote. In those cases I would give a lot of weight to the will of the constituency.
Posted by sumtimeitbeslikedat
Vidalia, La
Member since Nov 2013
4426 posts
Posted on 2/25/21 at 7:08 am to
Here’s the bigger issue:

Dims don’t vote either of the two. They vote for whichever way they perceive is contrary to the opposition. Then, they go on a PR, propaganda, and smear campaign to convince their constituents their position is holy and righteous, and any opposition to it is evil, racist, sexist, homophobic, or any other card they want to pull.

AND PEOPLE BUY THAT CRAP!!!! Because, as a whole, Americans are simple-minded, immoral, govt bought and dependent.

Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
42941 posts
Posted on 2/25/21 at 7:15 am to
If the Founders had wanted direct democracy (or governance by polling), they would have written the Constitution quite differently.

The presumption is that elected representatives will be (or become) better.informed than the mob. On average, I think history bears this out.

It is my fervent opinion that far more than half the population lacks the intelligence to even select representatives, much less set policy on specific issues.
This post was edited on 2/25/21 at 7:25 am
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 2/25/21 at 7:17 am to
quote:

One would think the two would be the same.


nah.

you need to account for companies, the 1% or at least top 5%, the base, your own values and the region and the nation.

only a few issues are even in the awareness of the general public.
the whole point of having senators is so the mob doesnt run the nation.

constituents are most easily influenced by mass communication such as potus can do and by religious leaders based on carefully selected mythology that adherents were trained since childhood to believe in.

This post was edited on 2/25/21 at 7:19 am
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
42644 posts
Posted on 2/25/21 at 7:18 am to
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Best representation of his/her constituency...


. . . consistent with the Constitution of the USA and those issues you specifically and clearly campaigned on during your election.

If you had a fundamental belief that you knew was 'unpopular' with your constituency, then you were obligated to be honest with them during the election. If you did that, and they elected you anyway, then vote your conscience = your constituency has already given you their approval for that in exchange for your support of other issues they agreed on.

Posted by RCDfan1950
United States
Member since Feb 2007
34961 posts
Posted on 2/25/21 at 7:19 am to
Cassidy should go into an area wherein those who DISAGREE with his chosen position are, and engage in an open debate. He should answer whether or not - in this instance - he observed all the security Videos of massive voter fraud, the many sworn Affidavits and the virtually impossible 'anomalies' in vote counting mechanisms which coincide with election workers corruption. Not to mention that the Mechanisms were OPEN to Internet manipulation.

Cassidy - like many - are either woefully ignorant - by choice - or blatantly dishonest, by choice.

The primary task of an elected official is to engage with those whose opinions differ from their own, and either persuade via powerful argument...or be persuaded. And if there can be no agreement, then vote, and bear the consequence. The 'consequences' in this current societal dynamic are staggering and profound, with the Left pushing to silence ALL honest criticism and brand such as 'insurrection'/'sedition'.

Bill Cassidy is in way over his head; a lot of these politicos who just wanted to get on the status and financial security train are. They don't realize that THEY will be held accountable, if or when dysfunction prevails because of perceived corruption toward "fundamental change".
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