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How poignant, the 250th birthday of the US as the SCOTUS hammers the final nail
Posted on 6/29/26 at 11:02 am
Posted on 6/29/26 at 11:02 am
in the coffin of the constitutional republic.
I've told y'all for a few years the fatal flaw in the US Constitution and other founding documents was the lack of structural guardrails to protect and preserve the constitutional republic that so many have fought, bled and died for. I think the Founders believed a vast majority of Americans would always be of decent moral character, rooted in Christian principles and their love of God and country.
The Founding Fathers also understood it would be on the backs of every US citizen to preserve the sovereignty and security of the nation but they had no idea how quickly enemies from outside the US would eventually seed and nurture the "enemies from within" the US.
In less than 75 years the purveyors of socialism/communism/Marxism have convinced a large percentage of US citizens the way forward is destruction of the last bastion of Western civilization. More specifically, the destruction of their oppressors. And who are the oppressors? The oppressors are the Americans who don't buy into the socialist/communist/Marxist BS that teaches Western civilization/culture is oppressing primarily people of color and those who are not accepting of Western civilization rooted in Christian principles and precepts.
Now, back to the title of the OP. It's very likely when the SCOTUS rules on birthright citizenship it will completely disregard the original intent of the 14A which was to grant citizenship to recently emancipated black Americans. Instead it will use subsequent rulings that incrementally bastardized the 14A to allow anyone to drop a child in the US with the sole intent of staking their unearned claim of US citizenship.
Let this marinate for a bit. According to Google AI since 1990 approximately 15-20 million people have been granted US citizenship simply because their legal/illegal immigrant parents entered the US and gave birth to a child......which in turn gave the the anchor they needed to remain in the US and to eventually facilitate additional chain migration.
I've told y'all for a few years the fatal flaw in the US Constitution and other founding documents was the lack of structural guardrails to protect and preserve the constitutional republic that so many have fought, bled and died for. I think the Founders believed a vast majority of Americans would always be of decent moral character, rooted in Christian principles and their love of God and country.
The Founding Fathers also understood it would be on the backs of every US citizen to preserve the sovereignty and security of the nation but they had no idea how quickly enemies from outside the US would eventually seed and nurture the "enemies from within" the US.
In less than 75 years the purveyors of socialism/communism/Marxism have convinced a large percentage of US citizens the way forward is destruction of the last bastion of Western civilization. More specifically, the destruction of their oppressors. And who are the oppressors? The oppressors are the Americans who don't buy into the socialist/communist/Marxist BS that teaches Western civilization/culture is oppressing primarily people of color and those who are not accepting of Western civilization rooted in Christian principles and precepts.
Now, back to the title of the OP. It's very likely when the SCOTUS rules on birthright citizenship it will completely disregard the original intent of the 14A which was to grant citizenship to recently emancipated black Americans. Instead it will use subsequent rulings that incrementally bastardized the 14A to allow anyone to drop a child in the US with the sole intent of staking their unearned claim of US citizenship.
Let this marinate for a bit. According to Google AI since 1990 approximately 15-20 million people have been granted US citizenship simply because their legal/illegal immigrant parents entered the US and gave birth to a child......which in turn gave the the anchor they needed to remain in the US and to eventually facilitate additional chain migration.
This post was edited on 6/29/26 at 1:51 pm
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Posted on 6/29/26 at 11:08 am to Bass Tiger
The Court will correctly state that our Founders left us with beautiful process to change or add to the Constitution. We can easily fix this problem. The Supreme Court is not some super legislature whose job it is to fix all wrongs.
You have 3 raging nut liberals on the court and a few textualists. The textualists lean conservative but they will fall back to what the constitution says. The document says what is says and it says if you are born here you are a citizen. They cannot change what it says even if they understand the intent. The conservatives will focus on the intent.
The permanent fix is a constitutional amendment that defines who is a citizen very narrowly.
You have 3 raging nut liberals on the court and a few textualists. The textualists lean conservative but they will fall back to what the constitution says. The document says what is says and it says if you are born here you are a citizen. They cannot change what it says even if they understand the intent. The conservatives will focus on the intent.
The permanent fix is a constitutional amendment that defines who is a citizen very narrowly.
Posted on 6/29/26 at 11:09 am to Bass Tiger
There is no way off of this death spiral under the present system. It didn't take long for the enemies of democracy to figure out how to use our laws and "freedoms" against us.
This post was edited on 6/29/26 at 1:12 pm
Posted on 6/29/26 at 11:11 am to Tiger985
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The permanent fix is a constitutional amendment that defines who is a citizen very narrowly.
There will never be another constitutional amendment that favors preservation of this nation. The institutional rot has taken over.
Posted on 6/29/26 at 11:30 am to Bass Tiger
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Let this marinate for a bit. According to Google AI since 1990 approximately 125 million people have been granted US citizenship simply because their legal/illegal immigrant parents entered the US and gave birth to a child
That's incredible considering we've only had about 137 million births in the US since 1990....
Posted on 6/29/26 at 11:48 am to TheChosenOne
Commies played the long game and won - the ONLY thing keeping them from full control is the 2nd amendment - but when the Dems expand the court that will be taken away from us
Posted on 6/29/26 at 11:56 am to TheChosenOne
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Let this marinate for a bit. According to Google AI since 1990 approximately 125 million people have been granted US citizenship simply because their legal/illegal immigrant parents entered the US and gave birth to a child
That's incredible considering we've only had about 137 million births in the US since 1990....
My bad, I didn't frame the question properly.
't I just ran the Google again, the number of children born to non citizens in the US since 1990 is only 15-20 million. In a typical year upwards of 500K children are born in the US to non citizens. I guess we should feel better now that it's not 125 million since 1990
Posted on 6/29/26 at 12:01 pm to Bass Tiger
Just ruled that votes can be counted forever too
Posted on 6/29/26 at 12:05 pm to Bass Tiger
quote:I don't think this court has the guts to do that. Roberts will likely punt the thing on procedural grounds, identically to what he did with TX v PA.
Now, back to the title of the OP. It's very likely when the SCOTUS rules on birthright citizenship it will completely disregard the original intent of the 14A which was to grant citizenship to recently emancipated black Americans. Instead it will use subsequent rulings that incrementally bastardized the 14A to allow anyone to drop a child in the US with the sole intent of staking their unearned claim of US citizenship.
My guess is the ruling will allow the law to stand as is, holding that Trump lacks the ability to correct it via EO. De facto, it's the same outcome, except the Court will not address the mistakes of Ark at all.
Posted on 6/29/26 at 12:42 pm to Tiger985
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The permanent fix is a constitutional amendment that defines who is a citizen very narrowly.
I agree but We can’t even get Congress to pass something like this with 51 votes in the Senate.
Good luck getting the support for a constitutional amendment
Posted on 6/29/26 at 1:24 pm to Bass Tiger
They're going to approve birthright citizenship and that will be the end. This country is done between that and all the third world islamic trash coming here and pumping out babies to eventually take power. If we don't do some uncomfortable but necessary things now to perserve this country and our culture, our principles, and civility... it's over. We're about at the point of no return. We cannot vote our way out of this.
Posted on 6/29/26 at 1:24 pm to Snipe
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There is no way off of this death spiral under the present system. It didn't take long for the enemies of democracy to figure out how to use our laws and "freedoms" against us.
Yup.
Posted on 6/29/26 at 2:24 pm to Tiger985
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The textualists lean conservative but they will fall back to what the constitution says. The document says what is says and it says if you are born here you are a citizen.
That is not what it says. It plainly states "under the jurisdiction of." You are not "under the jurisdiction of" simply because you are physically present within our borders. This implies an allegiance. Illegals and foreigners on vacation do not have an allegiance to the US.
Yes, the law is written as it is written. It is very clear for anyone with common sense. The problem is that the interpretation has been bastardized by shitty lawyers and judges into something that was never intended.
It's bullshite that a judge can misinterpret obvious meaning and then just say, "if you don't like it, pass a new law."
Conservatives defending this are idiots with no self-preservation skills or an appreciation for this country. If you appreciated this country, you wouldn't be trying to ruin it through false interpretations and putting your personal principles over the good of the nation.
Posted on 6/29/26 at 6:09 pm to TenWheelsForJesus
I don't disagree with you. But this wasn't the right court to make the case before. This set of justices is going to uphold birthright citizenship.
The elected representatives of the people have the ability to fix this problem.
The court is not a legislature and trust me, you do not want it acting like one.
The elected representatives of the people have the ability to fix this problem.
The court is not a legislature and trust me, you do not want it acting like one.
This post was edited on 6/29/26 at 6:13 pm
Posted on 6/29/26 at 7:34 pm to Bass Tiger
The Founding Fathers, many of whom owned slaves, never visualized they would be liberated and turned into a Democratic voting block. And criminals.
Posted on 6/29/26 at 7:51 pm to Tiger985
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We can easily fix this problem.
Thanks to the founders, we canNOT easily fix it.
Posted on 6/29/26 at 9:10 pm to TenWheelsForJesus
I was just about to type all of that. Thanks for beating me to it. I agree with everything in your post
Posted on 6/29/26 at 9:18 pm to TenWheelsForJesus
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The textualists lean conservative but they will fall back to what the constitution says. The document says what is says and it says if you are born here you are a citizen.
That is not what it says. It plainly states "under the jurisdiction of." You are not "under the jurisdiction of" simply because you are physically present within our borders. This implies an allegiance. Illegals and foreigners on vacation do not have an allegiance to the US.
Yes, the law is written as it is written. It is very clear for anyone with common sense. The problem is that the interpretation has been bastardized by shitty lawyers and judges into something that was never intended.
It's bullshite that a judge can misinterpret obvious meaning and then just say, "if you don't like it, pass a new law."
Conservatives defending this are idiots with no self-preservation skills or an appreciation for this country. If you appreciated this country, you wouldn't be trying to ruin it through false interpretations and putting your personal principles over the good of the nation.
What I find interesting is the original intent of the 14A was to grant US citizenship to newly emancipated black Americans but over the years with a few crafty lawyers doin what they do, convinced previous SCOTUS to rule the 14A means if you can get your pregnant arse across the border you're good to go.
Posted on 6/29/26 at 9:21 pm to Bass Tiger
1. Stop typing
2. Log off
2. Log off
Posted on 6/29/26 at 9:23 pm to BTROleMisser
If you hate it here so much, start packing…
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