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Posted on 6/21/19 at 8:08 pm to texag7
Are his lips still purple??
Posted on 6/21/19 at 8:14 pm to Aubie Spr96
Lot's of downvotes, but no substantive responses. NEOCONS gonna NEOCON.
I often wonder, specifically in regards to foreign policy, what America would do if the roles were reversed. I'd suggest reading up a little on the US/Iranian history and then imagine the roles being reversed.
We were giving them their money back that we STOLE from them, one way or another.
I often wonder, specifically in regards to foreign policy, what America would do if the roles were reversed. I'd suggest reading up a little on the US/Iranian history and then imagine the roles being reversed.
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What’s Behind the Financial Dispute Between the U.S. and Iran?
In November 1979, Iran’s revolutionary government took 52 Americans hostages at the U.S. embassy, and the U.S. severed diplomatic relations with Tehran. In retaliation, Washington froze $12 billion in Iranian assets held on our shores. The hostage crisis was resolved in 1981 at a conference in Algiers, and the U.S. returned $3 billion to Iran, with more funds going either to pay creditors, or into escrow. The two nations also established a tribunal in the Hague called the Iran United States Claims Tribunal to settle claims both leveled by each government against the other, U.S. citizens versus Iran, and vice versa.
The major issue between the two governments was a $400 million payment for military equipment made by the government of the Shah of Iran, prior to the 1979 uprising that topped him. The U.S. banned delivery of the jets and other weapons amid the hostage crisis, but froze the $400 million advance payment. “The Pentagon handled arms purchases from foreign countries,” says Gary Sick, a former National Security Council official who served as the principal White House aide for Iran during the Iranian Revolution and the hostage crisis. “Defense took care of the details. So the $400 million scheduled purchase was a government-to-government transaction. The U.S. government was holding the money. That’s why it was so difficult to resolve.”
By 2015, the issue stood before a panel of nine judges, including three independent jurists, who were reportedly near a decision on binding arbitration. According to Obama administration officials, the U.S. was concerned that the tribunal would mandate an award in the multiple billions of dollars. “The Iranians wanted $10 billion,” says Sick.”I estimate that the tribunal would have awarded them $4 billion. That’s what the lawyers were saying. It’s not as much as they wanted, but a lot more than we paid.”
So instead, the U.S. negotiators convinced Iran to move the dispute from arbitration to a private settlement. The two sides reached an agreement in mid-2015, at the same time as the U.S. and Iran reached a comprehensive pact on curtailing Iran’s development of nuclear weapons. The financial deal called for the U.S. to refund $1.7 billion to Tehran, consisting of the original $400 million contract for military equipment, plus $1.3 billion in interest.
We were giving them their money back that we STOLE from them, one way or another.
Posted on 6/21/19 at 8:22 pm to wookalar1013
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i love how the amount changes in every maga post
What is the correct amount, and why would that change anything??
Serious question.
Posted on 6/21/19 at 8:25 pm to Aubie Spr96
Hey Einstein..the "deal" was invalidated with the overthrow of the Shah.
Posted on 6/21/19 at 8:31 pm to mmcgrath
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He looks awesome because Iran would have nukes right now without the Israelis destroying the caches
Posted on 6/21/19 at 8:33 pm to Dale51
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Hey Einstein..the "deal" was invalidated with the overthrow of the Shah.
Now you're getting it! So, what happens when a deal is invalidated? Perhaps the Iranians should have gotten their money back?
Posted on 6/21/19 at 8:41 pm to Aubie Spr96
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deal is invalidated? Perhaps the Iranians should have gotten their money back?
Different government. I don't believe you get it. If I owe ExxonMobil $500 and they go out of business, I don't still owe it. Likewise, if they owe me $500 and go out of business, I'm SOL.
Posted on 6/21/19 at 8:43 pm to texag7
The fact we're enemies with Iran but friends with Saudi Arabia is baffling.
Posted on 6/21/19 at 8:51 pm to Bulldogblitz
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Different government.
You realize that not what happened here right? The United States gov't was the seller here. They took the money of Iran in promise for arms. Then, when the gov't changed to one the United States didn't like, we decided not to give the money back. It would be the equivalent of putting money down on a house as a Republican, then changing political affiliations before the purchase and the bank backing out and keeping your down payment.
The Iranians took it to an international court which was set to rule against us to the tune of $10 Billion dollars. So, we compromised and tried to salvage a nuclear deal out of it in an attempt to save face.
You know that just because Trump says something and it gets parroted around Fox News, doesn't mean that it's right, right?
Posted on 6/21/19 at 8:53 pm to Aubie Spr96
but but but muh pallets of cash in the night!
Posted on 6/21/19 at 8:54 pm to Aubie Spr96
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We were giving them their money back that we STOLE from them, one way or another.
Did we have a special ‘Money we stole from Iran’ account that Obama was able to cash a check on?
Was there a special listing in our national budget every year that showed this on our federal ledgers?
This post was edited on 6/21/19 at 8:57 pm
Posted on 6/21/19 at 9:00 pm to Y.A. Tittle
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Did we have a special ‘Money we stole from Iran account’ that Obama was able to cash a check on?
Sure we do.
It's the same one that Bush used for the bailouts. It's the same one Trump plans to use in order to build the wall and the trillion dollar infrastructure spend and increasing the military budget.
We owed them the money. We literally stole it from them because they changed to a regime that didn't want to have us run their petroleum resources. We've kicked the shite out of Iran for years. Anyone remember when we backed Sadaam Hussein and encouraged his war with Iran where he used chemical weapons against them?
Posted on 6/21/19 at 9:02 pm to texag7
“This wouldn’t have happened if Drumpf wouldn’t have pulled out of the deal!!”
Posted on 6/21/19 at 9:05 pm to Porky Oliver
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We didn’t give them one red cent. That foreign agent posing as the commander in chief did. He should hang for what he did to the honest people of this country. He absolutely will burn in Hell for eternity. There is no doubt in my mind.
Jesus Christ, people like you are the problem.
There are people like you on the left and the right and you guys are equally at fault for most of our countries problems
Congrats
Posted on 6/21/19 at 9:10 pm to RazorBroncs
quote:You guys love your made up conspiracies.
How adorably naive of you to think they don't.
Posted on 6/21/19 at 9:10 pm to Tiger1242
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There are people like you on the left and the right and you guys are equally at fault for most of our countries problems
Posted on 6/21/19 at 9:12 pm to mmcgrath
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You guys love your made up conspiracies.
Like the Russian collusion fairy tale??
Posted on 6/21/19 at 9:12 pm to 93and99
Barry sotero don’t care. He’s living it up with Clooney at his villa at the moment.
That doesn’t sound too pathetic to me.
That doesn’t sound too pathetic to me.
Posted on 6/21/19 at 9:15 pm to Aubie Spr96
You replied to your own post. WTF?
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