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re: How many warnings did Putin give about arming Ukraine and NATO involvement?

Posted on 2/25/22 at 10:41 am to
Posted by GnashRebel
Member since May 2015
8933 posts
Posted on 2/25/22 at 10:41 am to
Ukraine has the right to join the EU if they want. Putin knows damn well nobody in Europe has any interest in attacking Russia.
Posted by hottub
Member since Dec 2012
3654 posts
Posted on 2/25/22 at 10:44 am to
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we had invaded Cuba, you would have a point. We did not however.



We did invade. Just royally fricked up the invasion.
Posted by FearlessFreep
Baja Alabama
Member since Nov 2009
19989 posts
Posted on 2/25/22 at 10:53 am to
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This guy was on point.
John Mearsheimer

I'd heard of this guy in relation to his book on Israel but didn't know anything else about him.

His track record is pretty damned impressive - in addition to his forecast for Ukraine's eventual destruction due to Western meddling, pay particular attention to his predictions on the first Iraq Attaq and our misguided efforts to ameliorate Chinese hegemony.

And totally unlike most geopolitical observers, he doesn't appear to be completely beholden to his past theories if he perceives that conditions underlying his assumptions materially change.

If only guys like him had influence on US foreign policy, instead of complete ideological idiots and opportunists like John Kerry, John Bolton, Victoria Nuland and their loathsome ilk.
This post was edited on 2/25/22 at 10:56 am
Posted by dat yat
Chef Pass
Member since Jun 2011
4970 posts
Posted on 2/25/22 at 10:57 am to
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NATO existed to stop the USSR. The USSR doesn't exist.


NATO exists to protect and defend the freedom and security of its members from anyone, not just to "stop the USSR". Is Russia's attack a threat to NATO members? We don't know yet; but Putin should have no say in who joins NATO and at this point, it is obvious that the Ukraine needed to be a member.

Putin is the aggressor; neither Ukrane nor NATO would have been a threat to the Russians if they had stayed in their lane.
Posted by Pecker
Rocky Top
Member since May 2015
16674 posts
Posted on 2/25/22 at 11:01 am to
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And let's be clear, nobody has substantive concerns that some really dumb people are praising Putin because they have an emotional need for a big strong daddy figure as national leader.
To be fair, big strong daddy figures are ideal when it comes to national leaders.
Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
Member since Apr 2015
31528 posts
Posted on 2/25/22 at 11:05 am to
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Fair enough. There are a few loons out there that think he's "fighting the globalists" and other dumb shite like that



More than a few, this board is completely overrun with Putin cheerleaders but they won’t admit it. All it takes is looking at the upvotes vs downvotes on the many posts praising him and rooting Russia on.
Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
Member since Apr 2015
31528 posts
Posted on 2/25/22 at 11:13 am to
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No they aren't!
They are many of the same folks who say any opponent of BLM or CRT is a racist. If you don't bloviate on how Putin is irrational and doing this for no reason, you are established as praising him.




Bruh they absolutely are starting with Dear Leader calling him genius and savvy. Thus all the bots start making argument after argument about how Ukraine is corrupt and Putin is a strong guy looking out for what’s best for Russia etc. But yes they absolutely are praising Putin no matter how much you want to believe otherwise.
Posted by Kjnstkmn
Vermilion Parish
Member since Aug 2020
21892 posts
Posted on 2/25/22 at 11:45 am to
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
138873 posts
Posted on 2/25/22 at 1:29 pm to
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Who is praising Putin?

Trump? ...And so of course 95% of this board as well, whether they admit it or not.
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Bruh they absolutely are starting with Dear Leader calling him genius and savvy.
Bruh, maybe you don't know who Patton, or Rommel, or either was? Maybe the reference slipped over your gnomedome? But Patton referred to Rommel as genius and savvy, then in the same breath he vowed to kill the sonofabitch. Got it?

To the real question though, who has OBVIOUSLY better mental faculties, Putin or PotatoBrain? Who is the better strategist? Who has the better understanding of foreign policy? Who is the more feared?

E.g., I just watched PotatoBrain groveling around on the floor trying to pick up crap he knocked of the podium (after speaking with the same thick tongue and slurred words of a barely conscious drunk) during nomination of a far-left extremist for the SCOTUS.

That is the falsely "elected" comparison for the entire world to draw, Bruh.
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