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re: how many schools would need to get shot up before you would consider a gun ban?

Posted on 2/18/18 at 3:17 pm to
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
44033 posts
Posted on 2/18/18 at 3:17 pm to
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it does in every single country where theyre banned, but the US will someone be completely unaffected.

can you explain that?


What is the population and demographics of all these "every single country"? What is the US in comparison?

What is our violent crime rate? What is theirs?
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
117067 posts
Posted on 2/18/18 at 3:17 pm to
Chicago has the toughest gun laws in the United States but has had 1,400 murders over the past few years mostly involving illegal guns. Could it be that criminals do not respect laws? Do you think this Cruz piece of shite was deterred by the "gun free zone" sign on the front gate?
Posted by AU86
Member since Aug 2009
24533 posts
Posted on 2/18/18 at 3:18 pm to
I don't remember you leftists screaming about all of those killings by illegal immigrants. You bunch of damn hypocrites.
Posted by Pinecone Repair
Burminham
Member since Nov 2013
7156 posts
Posted on 2/18/18 at 3:18 pm to
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actually think the media has done a decent job at making the shooters less of a story than they used to. its far from great but its going in the right direction. i can still name the columbine shooters for example, but not the Sandy Hook freak or whoever shut up the movie theater in Colorado or even the Boston Bombers. i have MSM as a home page and i dont think ive seen the Florida guy as a headline once, its all been about the victims.


I think the media should provide basic info and very little else.
I don’t think it’s just about focusing on the shooter. The amount of attention in general may please a sick mind and encourage them to act in a similar fashion.
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
77574 posts
Posted on 2/18/18 at 3:18 pm to
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it does in every single country where theyre banned, but the US will someone be completely unaffected.
But not 100% isn't that the standard? It's the standard you demand of the armed security at the school.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
71369 posts
Posted on 2/18/18 at 3:18 pm to
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it does in every single country where theyre banned
I've asked you multiple times to link me the various situations in the past where gun violence was rampant in a certain nation, then that nation passed a law, and gun crime went down.
Posted by Yaboylaroy
Member since Mar 2010
1836 posts
Posted on 2/18/18 at 3:19 pm to
There are more guns in California than there is in China. What do you do with those guns? How does a ban prevent the use of these weapons that are already out in the public?
This post was edited on 2/18/18 at 3:20 pm
Posted by MastrShake
SoCal
Member since Nov 2008
7281 posts
Posted on 2/18/18 at 3:19 pm to
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Why aren't you calling for a ban of assault cigarettes?
lets ban cigarettes.

happy?
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
29285 posts
Posted on 2/18/18 at 3:20 pm to
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it's actually very likely it's due to the media's reporting and obsession on the AR



Either way, this idea that if we eliminate the AR-15 and we are eliminating this weapon that's uniquely capable of mass murder at schools, is retarded. Seung-Hui Cho, killed 32 and injured 25 more with just two pistols. No school shooting with an AR-15 has taken that many lives.
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
77574 posts
Posted on 2/18/18 at 3:20 pm to
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lets ban cigarettes.
Vapes, cigar, chew, speech, mass media let's do the whole village, well except weed!
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
29285 posts
Posted on 2/18/18 at 3:22 pm to
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There are more guns in California than there is in China. What do you do with those guns? How does a ban prevent the use of these weapons that are already out in the public?




They want a forced gun buy back like Australia, and that will lead to a Civil War.
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
36500 posts
Posted on 2/18/18 at 3:22 pm to
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lets ban cigarettes. happy?


Nope. Still have alcohol. And sugar. And automobiles. And a frick ton of other things that kill exponentially more people than firearms.

Can you just admit that you don't give a flying frick about saving lives? It's 100% a pure emotional plea that is completely asinine.
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
84096 posts
Posted on 2/18/18 at 3:22 pm to
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how many schools would need to get shot up before you would consider a gun ban?

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what if 100 schools were shot up everyday, would you agree to a new law then?


I think I disavowed The False Choice as a debating tactic by 9th grade. The adults explained to me that it was dishonest and would result in me quickly losing the debate. Respecting myself I followed their advice. If you need me to explain it to you, I promise to speak very slowly.

Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
77574 posts
Posted on 2/18/18 at 3:23 pm to
Plus let's regulate speech and music, #metoo would wreak havoc on rap.
Posted by Yaboylaroy
Member since Mar 2010
1836 posts
Posted on 2/18/18 at 3:26 pm to
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Either way, this idea that if we eliminate the AR-15 and we are eliminating this weapon that's uniquely capable of mass murder at schools, is retarded.


It looks scary. Someone well versed with a pistol or two and few magazines can do just as much or more damage in a close quarters setting like a classroom.
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
70669 posts
Posted on 2/18/18 at 3:26 pm to
Yes I can.
We are not them.
Them left those countries you mentioned and formed us.
Us is doing fine warts and all.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
450840 posts
Posted on 2/18/18 at 3:26 pm to
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i actually think the media has done a decent job at making the shooters less of a story than they used to. its far from great but its going in the right direction. i can still name the columbine shooters for example, but not the Sandy Hook freak or whoever shut up the movie theater in Colorado or even the Boston Bombers. i have MSM as a home page and i dont think ive seen the Florida guy as a headline once, its all been about the victims.

ok well that's an irrelevant response

we're talking about banning our constitutional rights
Posted by DawgfaninCa
San Francisco, California
Member since Sep 2012
20092 posts
Posted on 2/18/18 at 3:27 pm to
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Why aren't you calling for a ban of assault cigarettes?


Don't forget about the assault cigarette machines.
Posted by Aristo
Colorado
Member since Jan 2007
13292 posts
Posted on 2/18/18 at 3:28 pm to
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i can guarantee there will be far less, yes


No you can't. In fact I would even say you couldn't even guarantee the AR15 style weapon usage would go down in these types of rare crimes.

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look at their homicide rates compared to ours.


Please do go look at our homicide rate and you will see it's very rare that an AR15, much less a long rifle are used in homicides.

What laws would have prevented the shooting in Florida?
Posted by Wolfhound45
Member since Nov 2009
121195 posts
Posted on 2/18/18 at 3:28 pm to
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Don't forget about the assault cigarette machines.
Long gone baw.
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