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re: How many orders of magnitude worse is Obama spying on Trump than Watergate?
Posted on 3/3/17 at 4:07 pm to NIH
Posted on 3/3/17 at 4:07 pm to NIH
I don't recall the opposition to Clinton and Bush being based in them being unAmerican and actively working to undermine America. You disagreed with them but you never questioned their patriotism.
You're right in that it all changed with the election of Obama and has only gotten worse since then. It's no longer enough to disagree on principles of policy; you now have to question their entire loyalty to America itself.
It's toxic and it's not sustainable and it needs to be reigned in quickly.
You're right in that it all changed with the election of Obama and has only gotten worse since then. It's no longer enough to disagree on principles of policy; you now have to question their entire loyalty to America itself.
It's toxic and it's not sustainable and it needs to be reigned in quickly.
This post was edited on 3/3/17 at 4:12 pm
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Posted on 3/3/17 at 4:08 pm to joshnorris14
Due you mean one order of magnitude, or 10 orders of magnitude?
Posted on 3/3/17 at 4:08 pm to boosiebadazz
I don't think Republican leadership ever endorsed that kind of mind set. Can we same the same for the Dems?
Posted on 3/3/17 at 4:09 pm to skrayper
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Are we already accepting this as fact?
When has something as trivial as facts ever mattered to this board?
Posted on 3/3/17 at 4:11 pm to NIH
I think you're searching hard for a distinction without a difference 
Posted on 3/3/17 at 4:14 pm to joshnorris14
Is there a cover up?
Posted on 3/3/17 at 4:16 pm to boosiebadazz
Not really. I think your quest to see everyone as a hypocrite blinds you to the truth. 
Posted on 3/3/17 at 4:17 pm to MizzouBS
Well, if this is true then there used to be one. That's how these things work. First, there was a cover up and when that no longer worked there was formerly a cover up.
Now, there is no cover up. I think that's right. IF
Now, there is no cover up. I think that's right. IF
Posted on 3/3/17 at 4:20 pm to NIH
I'm not going to take the time to go look up the quotes from Republican leadership on the birth certificate, Obama's religion, the Iran deal, etc.
We'll just have to agree to disagree.
We'll just have to agree to disagree.
Posted on 3/3/17 at 4:28 pm to boosiebadazz
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It's toxic and it's not sustainable and it needs to be reigned in quickly.
with 24 hour news channels "creating" news and a President that openly perpetuates this sort of conduct, yeah, that's NOT gonna happen.... but i totally agree with everything you posted....
Posted on 3/3/17 at 4:30 pm to joshnorris14
lol except that's just the jjshill spin. It's fake news bro
Posted on 3/3/17 at 4:32 pm to NIH
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I don't think Republican leadership ever endorsed that kind of mind set.
you. can't. be. serious. as a registered independent that, in the past 3 elections, voted D, R, then didn't vote, let me be the first to say that your statement is patently false....
Posted on 3/3/17 at 4:34 pm to joshnorris14
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Has to be at least 10, right?
10 x Infinity
Posted on 3/3/17 at 4:38 pm to joshnorris14
We need to start hanging traitors again.
Posted on 3/3/17 at 4:42 pm to joshnorris14
It is much more than that, but unlike Nixon, Obama went and got a FISA warrant. Of course FISA did not happen until 1978 It's an abuse to be sure. But he protected himself by doing it.
He ought to have his skinny arse kicked and physically abused for doing it.
He ought to have his skinny arse kicked and physically abused for doing it.
Posted on 3/3/17 at 5:06 pm to joshnorris14
It's at least a 7.
If you think it's not a big deal, fast forward four years and imagine the Trump administration obtaining FISA warrants for the Democratic operatives and staff working on the Democratic Presidential candidate's campaign.
If that spectre scares you (and it should), then the Obama FISA spying should at least bother you.
If you think it's not a big deal, fast forward four years and imagine the Trump administration obtaining FISA warrants for the Democratic operatives and staff working on the Democratic Presidential candidate's campaign.
If that spectre scares you (and it should), then the Obama FISA spying should at least bother you.
Posted on 3/3/17 at 5:33 pm to NIH
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I don't think Republican leadership ever endorsed that kind of mind set. Can we same the same for the Dems?
Good loooorrrddd
Posted on 3/3/17 at 5:45 pm to joshnorris14
Infinitely worse. There's no comparison in US history. There will be fallout. A day of reckoning is coming. Trump is coming, Trump is coming and he's bringing hell with him. Democrats are going to pay and pay Bigly.
Posted on 3/3/17 at 6:38 pm to joshnorris14
Are you f*cking kidding? Doesn't even compare to what Nixon did. And he did a LOT besides Watergate, which was horrendous in itself. Nixon should have served prison time. He was totally corrupt.
Posted on 3/3/17 at 6:59 pm to TigersFan64
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Doesn't even compare to what Nixon did.
Very good point. Outstanding job of laying out the details of the case.
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