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re: How man Covid cases were/are just the Flu?

Posted on 7/26/21 at 12:33 pm to
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 7/26/21 at 12:33 pm to
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So why the need to do so now?
To save time and resources, as is spelled out in the announcement. One combo test is faster and cheaper to do than two separate tests. Simple stuff.

Posted by Dawgfanman
Member since Jun 2015
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Posted on 7/26/21 at 12:36 pm to
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One combo test is faster and cheaper to do than two separate tests.


But more expensive than the previous Covid testing only. So either we do less testing or overall it’ll be slower and more expensive than before, since the vast majority didn’t get swabbed for both previously.
Posted by HabaneroBuck
Up a ways.
Member since Oct 2020
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Posted on 7/26/21 at 12:43 pm to
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See, this is better than "he got covid and has terrible symptoms".


Fully-vaccinated Piers Morgan

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PIERS Morgan has revealed he is feeling slightly better after being struck down with horrendous Covid symptoms.

The former Good Morning Britain host, 56, had raging fever, chills, chest pains and violent coughing fits.


Just shut up, Scrub.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
29054 posts
Posted on 7/26/21 at 12:46 pm to
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But more expensive than the previous Covid testing only.
Right, which is why the announcement specifically mentions the combo tests will be more economical as flu season arrives.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
46235 posts
Posted on 7/26/21 at 12:50 pm to
God bless you for buying that line. The administration needs the case spikes to stop. That's why this is happening.

Even if everything with PCR is as you say, Fauci said MONTHS ago that it wasnt reliable. The thresholds being used were detecting viral remnants so weak that they patient isnt technically infected, contagious, or symptomatic.

This test was overcounting cases by the thousands while doctors were loading presumed positives in like tickets at Chuck E Cheese based on contact traces and symptoms alone while racking up that 20% covid relief medicare premium.
Posted by HabaneroBuck
Up a ways.
Member since Oct 2020
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Posted on 7/26/21 at 12:59 pm to
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Right, which is why the announcement specifically mentions the combo tests will be more economical as flu season arrives.



Economical? How is that any consideration whatsoever given the last two years of government operation?
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
57778 posts
Posted on 7/26/21 at 12:59 pm to
I just chuckle at the Branch Covidians that sail right by the fact we have had essentially ZERO deaths due to flu over the past 18 months, per the numbers reported by the government.

Essentially zero cases of flu as well.
Posted by MeatCleaverWeaver
Member since Oct 2013
22175 posts
Posted on 7/26/21 at 1:15 pm to
The Great WuFlu Hoo-Doo. The majority of Americans have been had and are still buying the government’s BS.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
29054 posts
Posted on 7/26/21 at 1:30 pm to
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God bless you for buying that line. The administration needs the case spikes to stop. That's why this is happening.

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Even if everything with PCR is as you say, Fauci said MONTHS ago that it wasnt reliable. The thresholds being used were detecting viral remnants so weak that they patient isnt technically infected, contagious, or symptomatic.
I absolutely believe the tests are very sensitive, which reduces false negatives at the expense of more false positives. A low viral load doesn't really matter if it doesn't result in a problem, but of course the attitude is "better safe than sorry". However the tests are also specific, which minimizes false positives due to other types of infections. However inflated the case numbers may be is due to overly-sensitive testing, not due to a lack of specificity in the tests.
Posted by idlewatcher
Planet Arium
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 7/26/21 at 1:31 pm to
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None of the drive thru testing centers I know of were using both


I was getting tested twice a week to enable me to visit a family member.

Not a single time was the word "flu" even mentioned, let alone tested for it.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
29054 posts
Posted on 7/26/21 at 1:31 pm to
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Economical? How is that any consideration whatsoever given the last two years of government operation?
This is a recommendation for private clinics.
Posted by SirWinston
PNW
Member since Jul 2014
101521 posts
Posted on 7/26/21 at 1:32 pm to
I just got tested at a rapid COVID site and they said I don't have COVID. I definitely had a nasty flu and am somewhat shocked that it wasn't COVID b/c I had every single possible trait of the "Delta" strain down to a T, especially the zero smell and taste for days.

My smell and taste is about 50% back now a week later but I'm still sluggish and not capable of working out or getting my heartrate up b/c I'd feel too weak.
Posted by Dawgfanman
Member since Jun 2015
25905 posts
Posted on 7/26/21 at 1:33 pm to
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the attitude is "better safe than sorry


The new recommendations, which will result in less Covid testing, due to increased expense and time needed over just a Covid test only, doesn’t seem to follow that attitude. Shouldn’t we stick with “negative but with symptoms” is assumed Covid and count and treat as such?
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
29054 posts
Posted on 7/26/21 at 1:41 pm to
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The new recommendations, which will result in less Covid testing, due to increased expense and time needed over just a Covid test only, doesn’t seem to follow that attitude. Shouldn’t we stick with “negative but with symptoms” is assumed Covid and count and treat as such?
What?

It's cheaper to do a single combo test than it is to do two separate tests for covid and flu. During flu season this is the best thing to do. This doesn't mean covid testing will happen less. What is your hangup here?
Posted by keakar
Member since Jan 2017
30152 posts
Posted on 7/26/21 at 1:49 pm to
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How man Covid cases were/are just the Flu?


roughly 99% with a 1% margin for error
Posted by LSUfan20005
Member since Sep 2012
9143 posts
Posted on 7/26/21 at 2:01 pm to
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They estimate that 34 million people get the flu every year. That number could be very low, if we have a lot of asymptomatic cases.


Well, shite - We are at just about 34 million cases of COVID in 1.5yrs.
Posted by Dawgfanman
Member since Jun 2015
25905 posts
Posted on 7/26/21 at 2:04 pm to
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What? It's cheaper to do a single combo test than it is to do two separate tests for covid and flu. During flu season this is the best thing to do. This doesn't mean covid testing will happen less. What is your hangup here?


They weren’t doing a Covid and flu test before. Just Covid. I know that I had 5 tests, not once tested for flu. Covid testing will happen less, as you said earlier the drive thru testing was Covid only..to keep things fast and cheap. Now it’ll either happen less or cost more. My suspicion is it won’t happen at all, as this admin has incentive to now drive down the numbers..
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
38521 posts
Posted on 7/26/21 at 2:08 pm to
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I agree with this. So why test and quarantine someone who is vaccinated?
Whole-heartedly agree. Quarantining him is stupid.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
38521 posts
Posted on 7/26/21 at 2:08 pm to
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Thats not what Joe Biden said.
I don't give a frick what Senile Sam said. I'm talking reality.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
38521 posts
Posted on 7/26/21 at 2:09 pm to
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Just shut up, Scrub.



Read your own fricking article:

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Piers was in bed for a week battling Covid and said the vaccine may have saved his life in his recent coloumn.
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