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re: How long until Herbivore Men, Incels and MGTOW take over the U.S.?
Posted on 1/25/19 at 9:01 am to TTIOT
Posted on 1/25/19 at 9:01 am to TTIOT
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This is an important topic for me as I consider myself both an Incel and a MGTOW. I'm in my 30s and have been rejected by women almost my entire life. Unlike MGTOW's I don't hate women but I do hate their shallowness. Their obsession with only dating Chads
Please tell me this is a troll
lower your standards
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Posted on 1/25/19 at 9:06 am to TTIOT
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I'm 35 and at this point I probably spend several hours a day online. I mostly leave to eat, do some nature activity or travel. I admit I do spend a considerable amount of time online.
Go to the gym at least an hour and a half a day instead of wasting time on the Internet. Even if that’s just walking on a inclined treadmill for the entire hour and a half. Hell you can even browse Reddit while you do this. Stop being a lazy bitch.
Posted on 1/25/19 at 9:17 am to TTIOT
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what do you think will happen when our virginity is exposed?
Get a hooker to work out some of your issues. That will relieve some of the pressure. Screw some ugly chicks. Nothing wrong with a slump-buster. Start out low and get some confidence and work your way up.
I would suggest the following time line:
1. Get in better shape. You don't have to turn into "chad" as you call it, just take better care of yourself and improve your health and appearance. Working out is also a place to meet people.
2. Get your illnesses under control. Most of what you listed can easily be handled by a better diet and some exercise.
3. Get laid, even if it's with a hooker or ugly fat chick.
4. Get your life in order, from an organizational and financial perspective. $45,000 is plenty of money for a single guy with no kids. Make sure your house and car and clean and organized. Taking care of what is yours is important. Even an average home can be impressive if it is clean and organized, inside and out.
5. Get social. Join clubs, groups, etc. Put yourself out there. Don't worry about sex, or dating. Just meet people and develop a social circle.
6. Never mention this INCEL bullshite in public, to anyone.
Posted on 1/26/19 at 4:50 am to Bjorn Cyborg
Those are good suggestions Bjorn. Unfortunately for me I think yesterday was when I hit rock bottom. I don't know why but talking about all this yesterday just caused me to have a true mental break. The whole thing makes me sad because Incels are where I identify, but unlike many of them I don't truly hate women.
I hate what some of them have done to me, but I don't have women. I'm definitely not one of the big Incel fanatics that wants to declare war on women, hurt women or even worse. I don't deny that there are some truly evil things said as part of the Incel community. I don't agree with them but it's kind of like a brotherhood. You try to stick by your brother even if do something really screwed up.
I actually went out for dinner last night and observed some people. What I realized is how lost I am. How I honestly have lost the ability to talk to people and really even relate to people. I feel very emotionless towards people and really don't feel much empathy. I think I've hated what women did to me for so long it's screwed up my emotions.
But what I am in the process of realizing is that what I really miss is connection as well as love. I've lived alone for so long now my body and mind are starting to truly suffer from isolation. At one point I bought a dakimakura body pillow because I thought that could replace a woman for me, but it doesn't work anymore.
I'm not even really that interested in sex. I want it yes but what I really want is camaraderie, friendship and even just some basic intimacy. Heck I would even take a hug or cuddling with a woman right now. I don't want to hurt women in any way, heck I would just like a woman who I can be myself around, who I can do fun activities with and heck who I could even just love and spoil.
What's sad is that I've learned to love sleeping. When I'm sleeping and dreaming that's actually when I feel the most alive. Imagining doing fun activities, being with friends who understand me, being in a loving relationship. It's when I see what life could be like and then reality slaps me right in the head when I wake up.
Sadly though it's too late for me to change. I've become completely anti-social and unable to truly relate to other people. They honestly feel like another species to me. What's funny is that I work in a job that requires me to interact with a lot of other employees as well as customers. Who knows, maybe I need to get one of those sex robots, maybe that would help, lol.
I hate what some of them have done to me, but I don't have women. I'm definitely not one of the big Incel fanatics that wants to declare war on women, hurt women or even worse. I don't deny that there are some truly evil things said as part of the Incel community. I don't agree with them but it's kind of like a brotherhood. You try to stick by your brother even if do something really screwed up.
I actually went out for dinner last night and observed some people. What I realized is how lost I am. How I honestly have lost the ability to talk to people and really even relate to people. I feel very emotionless towards people and really don't feel much empathy. I think I've hated what women did to me for so long it's screwed up my emotions.
But what I am in the process of realizing is that what I really miss is connection as well as love. I've lived alone for so long now my body and mind are starting to truly suffer from isolation. At one point I bought a dakimakura body pillow because I thought that could replace a woman for me, but it doesn't work anymore.
I'm not even really that interested in sex. I want it yes but what I really want is camaraderie, friendship and even just some basic intimacy. Heck I would even take a hug or cuddling with a woman right now. I don't want to hurt women in any way, heck I would just like a woman who I can be myself around, who I can do fun activities with and heck who I could even just love and spoil.
What's sad is that I've learned to love sleeping. When I'm sleeping and dreaming that's actually when I feel the most alive. Imagining doing fun activities, being with friends who understand me, being in a loving relationship. It's when I see what life could be like and then reality slaps me right in the head when I wake up.
Sadly though it's too late for me to change. I've become completely anti-social and unable to truly relate to other people. They honestly feel like another species to me. What's funny is that I work in a job that requires me to interact with a lot of other employees as well as customers. Who knows, maybe I need to get one of those sex robots, maybe that would help, lol.
This post was edited on 1/26/19 at 4:52 am
Posted on 1/26/19 at 5:48 am to TTIOT
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Who knows, maybe I need to get one of those sex robots, maybe that would help, lol.
YOLO
Butthurt that I’m this late to this thread. This may go down as a top 10 for 2019.
OP, I’m familiar with the groups you speak of. Never have read or heard from someone in real life though who claims to be apart of them aside from on reddit. So it’s been a unique experience to read your posts.
Posted on 1/26/19 at 5:51 am to Saint Alfonzo
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Involuntarily celibate
Men going their own way
finally something I understand in this thread - now I've learned all I need to know -
Posted on 1/26/19 at 6:04 am to TTIOT
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For me personally it's a quadruple dagger. One I don't have the looks of a Chad (not particularly good looking and short) so women aren't going to find me attractive. Two I don't make a lot of money. I'm not poor but I'm 100% working class (around 40-45,000 a year) so I can't buy a relationship with a woman. Three I have several medical conditions which affect my energy level. Heck I suffer from high blood pressure, asthma and GERD and am on multiple medications. From a physical sense I could honestly barely handle sex at this point. Fourth I'm just too socially awkward to ever be able to have legitimate conversations with women. Plus I was rejected so much by women in high school, college and my 20s that I suffer way too much anxiety from women.
Look on the bright side...
You won be passing on your genes
Posted on 1/26/19 at 6:13 am to TTIOT
MGTOW is not the same as incel
Posted on 1/26/19 at 6:37 am to Pectus
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MGTOW
Everything I’ve read about this makes it about making the decision to live your life absent of personal relationships with women due to the mental/financial toll they can bring.
And by that the examples I saw were false rape charges, alimony, child support along with almost no visitation with the child, etc....
I’m not bout that life, but I can certainly see why some may be.
Posted on 1/26/19 at 6:57 am to Pectus
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MGTOW is not the same as incel
No you're right they are not the same but they are like siblings. They is definitely a fair amount of overlap.
Posted on 1/26/19 at 7:19 am to TTIOT
So you’re telling me there are no socially awkward women who lack confidence in themselves? You’re telling me that there are no women feeling just as defeated and lonely as you? No women out there who have a hard time socially and feel like they never know what to say? There are no women on this planet who are going through what you’ve gone through?
Complete and utter BS. You just aren’t looking. You think you are, but you’re not.
Complete and utter BS. You just aren’t looking. You think you are, but you’re not.
Posted on 1/26/19 at 7:30 am to RidiculousHype
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So you’re telling me there are no socially awkward women who lack confidence in themselves? You’re telling me that there are no women feeling just as defeated and lonely as you? No women out there who have a hard time socially and feel like they never know what to say? There are no women on this planet who are going through what you’ve gone through?
Complete and utter BS. You just aren’t looking. You think you are, but you’re not.
I don't doubt there are, but I still think it's harder as a man. As a man you are supposed to be strong, you aren't supposed to question yourself, you aren't suppose to show emotion or show any weakness. If you are a man and you show weakness you are going to be laughed at. Women who show weakness usually have a great support group.
In terms of dating specifically it's easier for a woman to be socially awkward. Women aren't expected to approach and carry a conversation. Men are expected to. So a socially awkward women, if she's even average, can just wait until a man initiates a conversation with her and then take it from there.
I'm not saying there aren't some women out there who have trouble being social and have also had a lack of success in relationships, but I still think it's harder for man. Am I being unreasonable in that assessment?
This post was edited on 1/26/19 at 7:37 am
Posted on 1/26/19 at 8:44 am to Balloon Huffer
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WTF does incel stand for and what does MGTOW stand for?
Simply:
Incel = standards>attraction to women.
MGTOW = Men so dissatisfied with the male/female relationship requirements, they opt for no female relationship.
High soy diet recommended for both!
This post was edited on 1/26/19 at 8:46 am
Posted on 1/27/19 at 10:32 am to TTIOT
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I don't doubt there are, but I still think it's harder as a man. As a man you are supposed to be strong, you aren't supposed to question yourself, you aren't suppose to show emotion or show any weakness. If you are a man and you show weakness you are going to be laughed at. Women who show weakness usually have a great support group.
In terms of dating specifically it's easier for a woman to be socially awkward. Women aren't expected to approach and carry a conversation. Men are expected to. So a socially awkward women, if she's even average, can just wait until a man initiates a conversation with her and then take it from there.
I'm not saying there aren't some women out there who have trouble being social and have also had a lack of success in relationships, but I still think it's harder for man. Am I being unreasonable in that assessment?
Listen to yourself man, you’re full of excuses. Poster after poster has given you good advice but your mind automatically goes negative. Why is that? Look at all the upvotes given to those good-advice posts. If the overwhelming majority is trying to tell you something maybe it’s worth it to open your mind and really listen to what they’re saying.
You say it’s easier for a socially awkward woman to find a man than it is for a socially awkward man to find a woman. Maybe so. But are you telling me it’s impossible? It absolutely isn’t. There are some women who find a guy like that more relatable, even endearing. The fact that 30% of women in their mid-30’s have never married tells me there’s plenty of women out there not being scooped up by “Chads” as you put it.
Posted on 2/2/19 at 8:22 am to SDVTiger
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more than 2 genders
That's really a radical premise to begin with, and it goes all the way back to Genesis: "in the beginning...He created them, male and female..."
That's consistent for all creatures, animal and plant that reproduce sexually. There's nothing about a 3rd gender. In fact male and female humans differ in literally every cell of their bodies. No amount of hormone injections, implants, false vaginas, etc. can alter reality.
Posted on 2/2/19 at 8:26 am to tarzana
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In fact male and female humans differ in literally every cell of their bodies.
Thats weird.
Posted on 2/2/19 at 8:30 am to goatmilker
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Thats weird
It may be weird but it's true. Sometimes truth is stranger than fiction.
Posted on 2/2/19 at 8:33 am to tarzana
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Sometimes truth is stranger than fiction.
True.
Posted on 2/2/19 at 8:39 am to steadytiger
I think you are wrong on the MGTOW side as far as soy goes as many of these guys preach an aggressive “ pump and dump “ lifestyle. In their minds they flip the script from appeasing women’s nature ( hypergamy) to appeasing their own through sexual conquest with no financial commitment.
Posted on 2/2/19 at 9:37 am to TTIOT
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But what I am in the process of realizing is that what I really miss is connection as well as love. I've lived alone for so long now my body and mind are starting to truly suffer from isolation. At one point I bought a dakimakura body pillow because I thought that could replace a woman for me, but it doesn't work anymore
Quality stuff in this post
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