re: How long has our government been run by the Deep State?

POTUS Eisenhower's warning WRT the "Military Industrial Complex" included the Deep State in that warning. The Deep State is part of the MIC.

Since the Wilson administration.

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1913 doesn't happen if the Confederacy wins. The answer is April 1865.

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The South f'd up the Civil War. They should have been smarter about it. Jefferson Davis should have launched a campaign to advance technology in farming so farmers would have chosen machinery over slavery and launched a campaign to free the slaves. I know hindsight is 20/20 but there was certainly better ways to separate from the North, move away from slavery and save 100s of thousands of lives.

That is correct. Look at Wilson's unconstitutional shutdowns on liberty. He came up with the League of Nations a useless forerunner to the useless UN.

Then the man has a stroke and his wife runs the government and no one objects. Wife with help of deep state.

It's been since around late 1800's early 1900's but took a very sharp turn after WWII. Reinhard Gehlan and his anti Russian propaganda changed the course of the world even up until now. Gehlan was a Nazi that we brought over and basically put him in charge of our European CIA.

teddy was used to split the republican vote. the deep states guy was ww. ww had no chance to beat taft in a 2 man race. it makes me wonder about the bush-clinton election. i don't see clinton winning without perot in there.

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POTUS Eisenhower's warning WRT the "Military Industrial Complex" included the Deep State in that warning. The Deep State is part of the MIC.

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Eisenhower's warning was very prophetic, especially coming from someone in his position. You have to think that the groundwork had been laid sometime around the FDR era with the massive expansion of the federal government and stoked by the creation of the FBI and CIA. The arrival of wide-net intelligence agencies with minimal oversight was a huge hit to freedom for the public. Especially since we were led to believe in their "usefulness".

WW2 was the perfect opportunity to solidify the partnership of the deep state and MIC, ultimately propaganda and war profiteering became the order of the day.

One of the passages from his MIC is typically overlooked, but is definitely important for today.

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"Akin to, and largely responsible for the sweeping changes in our industrial-military posture, has been the technological revolution during recent decades.

In this revolution, research has become central; it also becomes more formalized, complex, and costly. A steadily increasing share is conducted for, by, or at the direction of, the Federal government.

Today, the solitary inventor, tinkering in his shop, has been over shadowed by task forces of scientists in laboratories and testing fields. In the same fashion, the free university, historically the fountainhead of free ideas and scientific discovery, has experienced a revolution in the conduct of research. Partly because of the huge costs involved, a government contract becomes virtually a substitute for intellectual curiosity. For every old blackboard there are now hundreds of new electronic computers.

The prospect of domination of the nation's scholars by Federal employment, project allocations, and the power of money is ever present and is gravely to be regarded.

Yet, in holding scientific research and discovery in respect, as we should, we must also be alert to the equal and opposite danger that public policy could itself become the captive of a scientific-technological elite.

It is the task of statesmanship to mold, to balance, and to integrate these and other forces, new and old, within the principles of our democratic system-ever aiming toward the supreme goals of our free society."

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has always been around and has gotten progressively more powerful over TIME.

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think: LUCIFER