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re: How long before we bomb the rest of the Iranian regime out?
Posted on 6/20/26 at 9:03 pm to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 6/20/26 at 9:03 pm to SlowFlowPro
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If they could win this war, that would be more calming than the world's oil supply running out in 4 weeks
BEDLAM!
Please post your Trump quote again. The one that makes you look like a fool for saying Trump said Iran is capable of bringing the global economy to its knees.
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Posted on 6/20/26 at 9:07 pm to Chuck Barris
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Why do you think Trump did that?
I wish I knew. I hope it was for a good reason. But the more and more Trump bends over backwards (basically ignoring Iranian attacks for instance) the more it looks like he is doing their bidding and not ours.
I don't know what is going on behind the scenes. I just know that it doesn't look like a good strategy because this shite could be over already.
I can only hope there is a slower way they are pursuing to achieve regime change and end this terrorist state for good.
Posted on 6/20/26 at 9:09 pm to Robcrzy
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We need to sink Kharg Island.
If we put enough military equipment and infrastructure there it might tip over in a week or so.
Posted on 6/20/26 at 9:30 pm to cbree88
Not a gotcha question here, a legitimate one.
What would Trump bomb that he hasn’t already at this point? It seems the only thing left would be to attack civilian infrastructure. Would Americans accept tens of thousands if not hundreds of thousands of civilian deaths broadcast on tv everyday?
What would Trump bomb that he hasn’t already at this point? It seems the only thing left would be to attack civilian infrastructure. Would Americans accept tens of thousands if not hundreds of thousands of civilian deaths broadcast on tv everyday?
Posted on 6/20/26 at 10:42 pm to Chuck Barris
Y'all ever think that maybe the reason why we aren't doing the things that posters on this board think are obvious and simple solutions to ending this war (like bombing the Iranian government into submission or seizing Kharg Island) is because we can't do them at a cost that we find acceptable?
We've controlled the skies over Iran for quite some time now. It wouldn't take 72 hours for the United States Air Force to take out every oil well, every pipeline, every bridge, and every railroad station in the entire country. We could send them back to the stone age without a single Marine setting foot in the country. I don't really think this is a debatable topic. If we did this, however, they would obviously send every possible asset to sink any oil tankers transiting the S of H, but how is this different than the German U-Boats trying to prevent us from supplying Britain during WW2? We were able to get most of it through and wiped them out during the process. We can and would do that again.
The question is, why haven't we done this?
Is it the humanitarian issues? (i.e. the catastrophic collapse of the Iranian economy) I haven't seen where Orange has ever been concerned about optics.
Is it the fear of losing 10% of the worlds oil production? This would be painful in the short term but Venezuela alone could make up that difference in short order with competent production companies.
Is China playing a larger role we don't know about? I've noticed quite a difference in Orange's Iran strategy since he visited with Xi. Maybe they made a deal.
Why have the Saudis been so quiet? For most of my life, the Saudi Royals controlled most of what happened in the ME, especially when it came to US policy. Their silence on current events could be very telling.
I will honestly say that I have no idea why we haven't completed the project we started, but there has to be a reason. It's not because we can't.
We've controlled the skies over Iran for quite some time now. It wouldn't take 72 hours for the United States Air Force to take out every oil well, every pipeline, every bridge, and every railroad station in the entire country. We could send them back to the stone age without a single Marine setting foot in the country. I don't really think this is a debatable topic. If we did this, however, they would obviously send every possible asset to sink any oil tankers transiting the S of H, but how is this different than the German U-Boats trying to prevent us from supplying Britain during WW2? We were able to get most of it through and wiped them out during the process. We can and would do that again.
The question is, why haven't we done this?
Is it the humanitarian issues? (i.e. the catastrophic collapse of the Iranian economy) I haven't seen where Orange has ever been concerned about optics.
Is it the fear of losing 10% of the worlds oil production? This would be painful in the short term but Venezuela alone could make up that difference in short order with competent production companies.
Is China playing a larger role we don't know about? I've noticed quite a difference in Orange's Iran strategy since he visited with Xi. Maybe they made a deal.
Why have the Saudis been so quiet? For most of my life, the Saudi Royals controlled most of what happened in the ME, especially when it came to US policy. Their silence on current events could be very telling.
I will honestly say that I have no idea why we haven't completed the project we started, but there has to be a reason. It's not because we can't.
Posted on 6/20/26 at 10:47 pm to Doak Walker
It’s been 75 years since Hiroshima.
It’s time to let the world know we’re still bad arse enough to do it again.
It’s time to let the world know we’re still bad arse enough to do it again.
Posted on 6/20/26 at 10:53 pm to Doak Walker
Those wars were supported by US citizens
This Iran War is not supported publicly.
US citizens under 50 have a almost negative perception of our only major ally in this war.
US troops will die
The world is going to watch thousands of Iran citizens get killed in collateral damage?
You cant even think about doing this without boots on the ground.
Trump bailed out after only 1 solder almost got captured.
This Iran War is not supported publicly.
US citizens under 50 have a almost negative perception of our only major ally in this war.
US troops will die
The world is going to watch thousands of Iran citizens get killed in collateral damage?
You cant even think about doing this without boots on the ground.
Trump bailed out after only 1 solder almost got captured.
This post was edited on 6/20/26 at 10:55 pm
Posted on 6/20/26 at 10:57 pm to cbree88
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A remarkable political scandal is unfolding inside the Islamic Republic.
An influential hardline MP from Saeed Jalili’s anti-negotiation camp has gone on live state television and effectively accused Iran’s negotiators of disregarding Khamenei’s instructions during talks with the United States.
According to Mahmoud Nabavian, the negotiations being pursued are “fundamentally different” from the conditions originally approved by Khamenei.
Within hours:
? State media announced legal action against Nabavian.
? A senior IRIB official reportedly resigned.
? Damage-control operations were launched across regime media.
Think about what this means.
If Nabavian is telling the truth, then either Iran’s negotiators ignored Khamenei’s directives, or powerful factions inside the regime are pursuing their own agenda.
The biggest takeaway is that the Islamic Republic may be far less unified than it appears. Public accusations, resignations, censorship, and lawsuits are now erupting in the middle of sensitive negotiations with the United States.
This is not the behavior of a regime confidently speaking with one voice.
Posted on 6/20/26 at 11:03 pm to cbree88
Why can't they make up their minds?
Posted on 6/20/26 at 11:05 pm to RelicBatches86
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The world is going to watch thousands of Iran citizens get killed in collateral damage?
Yes, this is very likely.
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You cant even think about doing this without boots on the ground.
You most certainly can, but it would lead to much of the collateral damage you previously mentioned.
Posted on 6/20/26 at 11:26 pm to SlowFlowPro
They lost four soldiers to an attack by Hezbolla.
Sorry, you are catching retaliation when you initiate it.
Trump needs to acknowledge this. He also needs to stomp the IRGC into the cesspit of history once and for all. I get he wants to minimize casualties and God bless him for it, but at some point the decision has to be made. Either you're willing to lose our boys or you're not.
I think he might tac nuke them to avoid that. I honestly think that might be on the table and part of the reason for the Camp David weekend. Tactical nukes on the uranium sites till they vaporize it.
Sorry, you are catching retaliation when you initiate it.
Trump needs to acknowledge this. He also needs to stomp the IRGC into the cesspit of history once and for all. I get he wants to minimize casualties and God bless him for it, but at some point the decision has to be made. Either you're willing to lose our boys or you're not.
I think he might tac nuke them to avoid that. I honestly think that might be on the table and part of the reason for the Camp David weekend. Tactical nukes on the uranium sites till they vaporize it.
Posted on 6/21/26 at 6:34 am to deathvalleytiger10
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What would Trump bomb that he hasn’t already at this point?
The installations where the IRGC soldiers are at. We’ve killed very few IRGC soldiers. The IRGC runs the country. Why Trump admitted he spared their actual soldiers is the biggest mystery in all of this. Kill them all.
Posted on 6/21/26 at 6:37 am to ronricks
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We’ve killed very few IRGC soldiers
Posted on 6/21/26 at 6:37 am to ronricks
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The IRGC runs the country. Why Trump admitted he spared their actual soldiers is the biggest mystery in all of this.
I have to go check but I believe that was specifically referencing the Artesh
Posted on 6/21/26 at 6:55 am to ronricks
If you start killing all the soldiers, or disbanding their military, you very well could have an underground criminal element take control. And that criminal element will be rife with “former” military guys.
Trump is giving the world a master class on how to deal with a bully. You punch him in the nose, then take his lunch money, and then….
Trump is giving the world a master class on how to deal with a bully. You punch him in the nose, then take his lunch money, and then….
Posted on 6/21/26 at 7:15 am to Henry Jones Jr
To truly accomplish all of Trump’s stated goals it would require boots on the ground. I don’t see that happening unless we’re prepared to undertake a long war. It’s always been foolish to think an air war alone could achieve everything.
Posted on 6/21/26 at 7:58 am to SDVTiger
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SDVCuck
Your lord and savior Trump admitted they intentionally tried to avoid killing IRGC soldiers.
Posted on 6/21/26 at 8:25 am to ronricks
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Your lord and savior Trump admitted they intentionally tried to avoid killing IRGC soldiers.
Posted on 6/21/26 at 8:32 am to Woolfpack
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Trump is giving the world a master class on how to deal with a bully. You punch him in the nose, then take his lunch money, and then….
Which part of giving them 300bn, lifting sanctions, and unfreezing assets is "taking his lunch money".
Posted on 6/21/26 at 8:33 am to SlowFlowPro
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1 — The United States of America and the Islamic Republic of Iran and their allies in the current war are signing this MOU to declare the immediate and permanent termination of military operations on all fronts, including in Lebanon, and undertake from now on not to initiate any war or any military operation against each other, and to refrain from the threat or use of force against each other, and ensuring the territorial integrity and sovereignty of Lebanon. The final deal will confirm the permanent termination of the war on all fronts, including in Lebanon and other provisions of this paragraph.
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