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Posted on 4/24/25 at 2:15 pm to Grumpy Nemesis
Let’s not forget, she claimed the police killed Trayvon martin
Muh facts! Muh ideas!
Muh facts! Muh ideas!
Posted on 4/24/25 at 2:19 pm to 4cubbies
quote:
74 people killed by police were unarmed.
This is a half-assed stat.
This includes people who are physically assaulting an officer (the majority of these fit this definition of “unarmed”).
Posted on 4/24/25 at 2:19 pm to 4cubbies
I asked chatGPT to describe the debate strategies and tactics used in this thread:
describe the debate strategies and tactics used in the thread.
ChatGPT said:
The TigerDroppings thread titled "How long before BLM starts trending again?" showcases a range of debate strategies and rhetorical tactics, many of which are common in online political discourse. Here's a breakdown of the main strategies users employed:
1. Dismissal and Deflection
Used by: momentoftruth87, sledgehammer, TigerSooner
Tactic: These users deflect the original question about racial disparities and policing by dismissing BLM as irrelevant, fraudulent, or financially corrupt.
Example: sledgehammer references BLM leaders buying mansions to delegitimize the movement without addressing systemic issues.
Effect: Shifts focus away from policy or data and toward character attacks or financial scandals.
2. Sarcasm and Mockery
Used by: Rebel, sledgehammer, 5WFSHR
Tactic: Employ sarcastic remarks or flippant comments to undermine opposing views or shut down conversation.
Example: 5WFSHR responds to a statistic-heavy post with “Dear Lord,” conveying exasperation rather than engaging.
Effect: Discredits the opponent without offering substantive rebuttal; appeals to like-minded readers.
3. Anecdotal and Hypothetical Examples
Used by: TigerSooner, DevilDogTiger
Tactic: Users speculate on future events or raise hypothetical criminal cases to critique BLM or predict its resurgence.
Example: TigerSooner predicts BLM will reemerge only after a new murder conviction gains traction.
Effect: Reframes the discussion around future hypotheticals, avoiding current evidence-based arguments.
4. Data Citation and Statistical Appeals
Used by: 4cubbies
Tactic: 4cubbies tries to ground their argument in facts, referencing Bureau of Justice Statistics data about racial disparities in police stops and use of force.
Effect: Attempts to create a rational foundation for the discussion, though most respondents ignore or sidestep this approach.
5. Political Framing and Allegiance Signaling
Used by: multiple users
Tactic: Many users frame BLM as a politically motivated movement aligned with Democrats and imply that any resurgence would be election-driven.
Effect: Turns the debate into a partisan issue rather than a discussion about systemic racism or justice reform.
6. Ad Hominem and Character Attacks
Used by: Gifman, others
Tactic: Attack the character of BLM leaders or the credibility of those who support the movement rather than discussing the movement’s goals or actions.
Effect: Undermines legitimacy through personal insults or accusations of corruption.
7. Silence or Ignoring Counterarguments
Used by: Most respondents to 4cubbies
Tactic: Instead of engaging with the data presented, most users avoid direct responses and instead introduce unrelated criticisms of BLM.
Effect: Keeps the thread emotionally charged and ideologically one-sided.
Summary of Tactics
This thread exemplifies how online debates often prioritize ideological posturing, sarcasm, and character attacks over evidence-based discussion. The few users who attempt reasoned argumentation (like 4cubbies) are largely sidelined by louder, more emotionally charged responses.
Would you like this analyzed further from a rhetorical or sociological perspective?
describe the debate strategies and tactics used in the thread.
ChatGPT said:
The TigerDroppings thread titled "How long before BLM starts trending again?" showcases a range of debate strategies and rhetorical tactics, many of which are common in online political discourse. Here's a breakdown of the main strategies users employed:
1. Dismissal and Deflection
Used by: momentoftruth87, sledgehammer, TigerSooner
Tactic: These users deflect the original question about racial disparities and policing by dismissing BLM as irrelevant, fraudulent, or financially corrupt.
Example: sledgehammer references BLM leaders buying mansions to delegitimize the movement without addressing systemic issues.
Effect: Shifts focus away from policy or data and toward character attacks or financial scandals.
2. Sarcasm and Mockery
Used by: Rebel, sledgehammer, 5WFSHR
Tactic: Employ sarcastic remarks or flippant comments to undermine opposing views or shut down conversation.
Example: 5WFSHR responds to a statistic-heavy post with “Dear Lord,” conveying exasperation rather than engaging.
Effect: Discredits the opponent without offering substantive rebuttal; appeals to like-minded readers.
3. Anecdotal and Hypothetical Examples
Used by: TigerSooner, DevilDogTiger
Tactic: Users speculate on future events or raise hypothetical criminal cases to critique BLM or predict its resurgence.
Example: TigerSooner predicts BLM will reemerge only after a new murder conviction gains traction.
Effect: Reframes the discussion around future hypotheticals, avoiding current evidence-based arguments.
4. Data Citation and Statistical Appeals
Used by: 4cubbies
Tactic: 4cubbies tries to ground their argument in facts, referencing Bureau of Justice Statistics data about racial disparities in police stops and use of force.
Effect: Attempts to create a rational foundation for the discussion, though most respondents ignore or sidestep this approach.
5. Political Framing and Allegiance Signaling
Used by: multiple users
Tactic: Many users frame BLM as a politically motivated movement aligned with Democrats and imply that any resurgence would be election-driven.
Effect: Turns the debate into a partisan issue rather than a discussion about systemic racism or justice reform.
6. Ad Hominem and Character Attacks
Used by: Gifman, others
Tactic: Attack the character of BLM leaders or the credibility of those who support the movement rather than discussing the movement’s goals or actions.
Effect: Undermines legitimacy through personal insults or accusations of corruption.
7. Silence or Ignoring Counterarguments
Used by: Most respondents to 4cubbies
Tactic: Instead of engaging with the data presented, most users avoid direct responses and instead introduce unrelated criticisms of BLM.
Effect: Keeps the thread emotionally charged and ideologically one-sided.
Summary of Tactics
This thread exemplifies how online debates often prioritize ideological posturing, sarcasm, and character attacks over evidence-based discussion. The few users who attempt reasoned argumentation (like 4cubbies) are largely sidelined by louder, more emotionally charged responses.
Would you like this analyzed further from a rhetorical or sociological perspective?
Posted on 4/24/25 at 2:20 pm to the808bass
quote:
This includes people who are physically assaulting an officer (the majority of these fit this definition of “unarmed”).
can I see your source for this?
Posted on 4/24/25 at 2:26 pm to 4cubbies
Here’s what response 2 of the paid version of Chat GPT includes:
quote:
1. Provocative Framing by the Original Poster The thread begins with the original poster (OP) suggesting that media attention to racial inequities in policing resurfaces depending on the political party in power. This framing implies media bias and sets a confrontational tone, inviting reactions from users with differing viewpoints
Posted on 4/24/25 at 2:26 pm to 4cubbies
That is comical at best . Sincerely sad at worst . You can pull data on a smaller scale local level for example a mid size population center . 300-500,000 . The data will mirror that at the federal level time and time again . The larger the diversity the more disproportionate the crime committed will be . Which is interesting to me as typically more populous a city becomes typically more diverse the local government becomes. (mayor, city council, police chief, department) They often even become minority majority run cites . Your premise thus becomes more difficult to support . These cities should have less police issues but that is simply not the case as the data mirrors the nation wide points.
Posted on 4/24/25 at 2:26 pm to 4cubbies
You can just look at the Wapo database of police shootings, select “unarmed” and then look up 10 or 15 of the “unarmed” victims.
Posted on 4/24/25 at 2:30 pm to 4cubbies
quote:
You trust the government, I don't. I trust my own research and experiences over what t
I don’t trust liberals. You do.
Posted on 4/24/25 at 2:31 pm to 4cubbies
quote:
74 people killed by police were unarmed.
Ok, so how many were armed?
Also, how many of the 74 attacked the cop, or another person, without a weapon?
Posted on 4/24/25 at 2:32 pm to 4cubbies
quote:
I asked chatGPT
lol
YoU uSeD aI!! Herrrr herrrr durr
Member that?
Posted on 4/24/25 at 2:40 pm to Hback
quote:
Here's one of your BLM activists ...
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If tweet fails to load, click here. Page after page after page of responses…… only to ignore this one. And it has 11 and a half thousand likes as well. I would like a single.. just one…juuuuuust one where a white guy is saying the opposite thing. Juuuuuuuust one.
Just like my post asking where the money went that was donated to BLM went. Ignored.
And she says… “I don’t trust the government” but spouts liberal nonsense obtained from PROVEN biased sources that have been caught in multiple lies and misinformation.
You gotta love the lily white, guilt ridden, Karen’s who hypocritically knight for other races but insulate themselves from them. The perfect example was Martha’s Vineyard shipping off their unwanted hours after white knighting for them.
Absolutely hilarious.
Edit: Annnnnnnnd she gone. No response.
This post was edited on 4/24/25 at 3:38 pm
Posted on 4/24/25 at 2:41 pm to 4cubbies
quote:
Not only are they wrong in focus but then, rather than choose from the great many perfectly legit cases to complain about, they fall hook line and sinker for the huge cases where 99% of the time, the police work was legit The cases that stick out most in my mind are Trayvon Martin, Sandra Bland, Breonna Taylor, George Floyd. 3/4 of those are 100% indefensible.
Muh facts.
Muh logic.
Muh reasonninggggggggg!!!!
Posted on 4/24/25 at 2:42 pm to 4cubbies
What will be your next troll topic I wonder.
-IQ is racist
-Women underrepresented as fighter pilots
-White flight is reason blacks cant act civilized
-Not letting kids make medical decisions is mean
-Affluent white schools should bus in poor blacks
-IQ is racist
-Women underrepresented as fighter pilots
-White flight is reason blacks cant act civilized
-Not letting kids make medical decisions is mean
-Affluent white schools should bus in poor blacks
Posted on 4/24/25 at 2:42 pm to the808bass
quote:
1. Provocative Framing by the Original Poster The thread begins with the original poster (OP) suggesting that media attention to racial inequities in policing resurfaces depending on the political party in power. This framing implies media bias and sets a confrontational tone, inviting reactions from users with differing viewpoints
This was the whole point of my OP but zero people were able to understand that. Emotions ran way too high.
Posted on 4/24/25 at 2:44 pm to 4cubbies
I’m going to buy you a bunch of gold jewelry.
At midnight I am going to drop you off in one of two neighborhoods where you have to walk around until daybreak.
Your choice.
The bottom.
Bocage.
Give your reasoning.
At midnight I am going to drop you off in one of two neighborhoods where you have to walk around until daybreak.
Your choice.
The bottom.
Bocage.
Give your reasoning.
This post was edited on 4/24/25 at 2:45 pm
Posted on 4/24/25 at 2:45 pm to 4cubbies
Patrice colours can't afford to put gas in her car to get to a riot. She's not taking donations for BLM, she is taking donations to pay the light bill in at least one of her 6 Mansions
Posted on 4/24/25 at 2:47 pm to 4cubbies
quote:
How long before BLM starts trending again?
quote:
4cubbies
1) Why are you pro-violence?
2) The high-profile cases of violence at the current time are, as usual, black-on-white. 1) Frisco, 2) Temple University.Why are you deliberately blind to REALITY?
PS - Congratulations on finally getting a couple of upvotes. At least you aren't the only COMPLETE a-hole here.
This post was edited on 4/24/25 at 2:50 pm
Posted on 4/24/25 at 2:55 pm to 4cubbies
Didn’t you apply to Southern Law?
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