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Gatorbait2008
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Member since Aug 2015
10442 posts

How is Fascism considered far right?
Never understood this.

The political spectrum goes

Communism
Socialism
Liberal
Democrat
Middle
Republican
Conservative
Libertarian
Fascism


Anyone notice the oddity? The scale makes sense on both sides going from the middle. The more left you go, the less individual freedom and more government control. The more right, more freedom and individual rights, less gpvernment.

Yet somehow Fascism, which is complete government control over everything is placed on the Right side.

This makes zero sense. Facism is basically the far, far left. It is after communism. This commonly shown political chart makes zero sense.

The chart should actually follow this.

Fascism
Communism
Socialism
Liberalism
Democrat


Republican
Conservative
Libertarian
Anarchist


See anarchy simply furthers the individual over state that libertarianism calls for. It should be considered the furthest right possible. Yet somehow we have been fed this nonsense that fascism is somehow a right winged philosophy.


How does this pass in a school setting? I know I heard it over and over and never really questioned it. I just can't see the logic nor reasoning in this. Maybe someone can break down how complete government control is somehow the next step from libertarianism for me.


SUB
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Member since Jan 2009
11862 posts

re: How is Fascism considered far right?
What makes less sense is your placement of libertarian. It should be closer to the middle next to moderate.


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thebigmuffaletta
Member since Aug 2017
3032 posts

re: How is Fascism considered far right?
Communists labeled fascism as right wing. Their ideological twins, American liberals, continue with the lie.


DaleDenton
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Member since Jun 2010
39998 posts

re: How is Fascism considered far right?
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How is Fascism considered far right?


It has to do with the rise of fascism in Europe by far alt-right politicians seizing power which eventually led to WWII.

Wait.

Really its a word with a fabricated taboo similar to White Nationalist and Alt-Right.
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Oilfieldbiology
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Member since Nov 2016
5996 posts

re: How is Fascism considered far right?
Because initially right and left we’re not based on individual freedoms but rather positions and government structure.

Communism is the complete destruction of all hierarchy to where everyone is equal and controlled by the state. Private property and private corporations don’t exist, only the state.

Fascism is the continued reinforcement of rigid hierarchy defined and controlled by the state. Private property and private corporations exists but only to benefit the state and some are clearly better than others.

They are two different governing structures that theoretically are very different, but in actuality result in very similar outcomes.


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AggieHank86
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Texas
Member since Sep 2013
10727 posts

re: How is Fascism considered far right?
Trying to place libertarians, fascist, Democrats and Republicans on the same simplistic, one-dimensional spectrum is much like trying to measure distance with a bathroom scale. You are simply using the wrong tool.

Image: http://newscellar.info/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/capitalism-vs-socialism-cartoon-on-big-government-programs-and-face-off-in-the-ring-i-want-your-money-movie-clip-smith-chartreuse-dress.jpg


Oilfieldbiology
LSU Fan
Member since Nov 2016
5996 posts

re: How is Fascism considered far right?
I like the concept of that graph, I’m not sure I like the placement of several factors on it. Anarchism should be upper right quadrant. Communism lower left, fascism bottom center. You could choose, to an extent what you wanted to work on in fascist countries, it just had to be an industry approved by the government


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baybeefeetz
LSU Fan
Member since Sep 2009
25529 posts

re: How is Fascism considered far right?
Fascism does really seem to belong on that scale. It’s not really an ideology, is it?


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Fat Bastard
Boston College Fan
Member since Mar 2009
40086 posts

re: How is Fascism considered far right?
good point

mussolini before being a fascist was a damn marxist that is left wing

also another lie by the left over time debunked here

a secret about the NAZIS





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AggieHank86
Texas A&M Fan
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
10727 posts

re: How is Fascism considered far right?
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cute collage. Did you make that at daycare today?
It is a fairly standard Nolan-style representation of political ideologies. Much more accurate than a one-dimensional spectrum, though it IS a bit too complex for some people (clearly such as yourself) to understand. Two whole variables. EGADS.
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Oilfieldbiology
LSU Fan
Member since Nov 2016
5996 posts

re: How is Fascism considered far right?
Downvote for use of Egads


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Fat Bastard
Boston College Fan
Member since Mar 2009
40086 posts

re: How is Fascism considered far right?
oh faggiehank with his hanksplaining

calling national socialism CENTRIST?



SoulGlo
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Shinin' Through
Member since Dec 2011
15064 posts

re: How is Fascism considered far right?
Because Hitler's Nazis can't possibly be anything like the benevolent and wonderful communists, so they must be on the opposite end of the spectrum.


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CelticDog
LSU Fan
Member since Apr 2015
27243 posts

re: How is Fascism considered far right?
It is not linear from libertarian to fascism.

Fascism enjoys a good parade, flags and Jets and tanks, same as far right egos.

Left is global and local.

Left does not equal commie.

Commie is a spiritual step.
Authoritarian commie fails because the proles and bourgiousie are not spiritual.


AggieHank86
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Texas
Member since Sep 2013
10727 posts

re: How is Fascism considered far right?
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calling national socialism CENTRIST?
Nazis are not remotely “centrist.” They are on the authoritarian/statist fringe.

Clearly a Nolan chart is too complex for you. This surprises exactly no one.
This post was edited on 3/15 at 10:17 pm


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CDawson
LSU Fan
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2017
2958 posts

re: How is Fascism considered far right?
Mussolini was a left wing fascist that teamed up with left wing Hitler. The Nuremberg laws were copied from the left wing FDR to attack Jews the way the Democrats had written laws to attack blacks.



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jimdog
columbus, ga
Member since Dec 2012
3103 posts

re: How is Fascism considered far right?
It's not. Fascism was a started by Benito M., the Italian dictator. And at it's heart is the government is everything and individual freedom is nothing. Socialism. The state controls everything. Most people in this country with rightist views are very much in favor of individual freedom and want the state out of our lives as much as possible. The fact that the sky screamers yell fascism at those who don't agree with them is a sign they are intolerable of others and combine that with the state is everything and their love of one party domination then they are modern day fascists.


HottyToddy7
Ole Miss Fan
Member since Sep 2010
10756 posts

re: How is Fascism considered far right?
The NAZI’s were socialist. That is a fact.


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omegaman66
LSU Fan
greenwell springs
Member since Oct 2007
12460 posts

re: How is Fascism considered far right?
How? Because the left doesn't want to be associated with Hitler. So the got their employees in the education system and the media to repeated it for decades. And now brain dead idiots believe it!


LSUnation78
USA Fan
Northshore
Member since Aug 2012
3998 posts

re: How is Fascism considered far right?
you go so far right, it comes full circle and becomes far left.

Either way its just polarization


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