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re: How handy would Bagram Airbase be right now?
Posted on 4/4/26 at 9:55 am to Jbird
Posted on 4/4/26 at 9:55 am to Jbird
quote:
Not leaving = continuing the war. That's your argument. You truly aren't a serious poster.
So you think that the taliban was going to just sit there and chill with a US base sitting there after we agreed upon leaving it?
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Posted on 4/4/26 at 9:56 am to Adam Banks
Yeah, this sounds like some revisionist history that we could have kept it.
Posted on 4/4/26 at 9:56 am to Adam Banks
quote:They would negotiate like they had been for nearly a year, if not why agree to an exit to said plan?
So you think that the taliban was going to just sit there and chill with a US base sitting there after we agreed upon leaving it?
Posted on 4/4/26 at 9:56 am to NC_Tigah
quote:
It is the basis of your presumption
When did I ever presume or state that the deal failed? That's your position (You're using the term void instead, but it's the same conceptual thing).
quote:
My presumption is there was a deal to be cut.
Hopium not based in reality
Posted on 4/4/26 at 9:56 am to DeathByTossDive225
quote:Link?
So to be fair, your vote here was to continue the war.
There would have been a settlement.
quote:Link?
I also noticed you keep ignoring anytime anyone questions
Posted on 4/4/26 at 9:57 am to Jbird
What would you renegotiate? With what leverage? The Taliban had already full control of everything else by the time Trump left. They had no reason to enter another agreement because they held all the cards and short of reinvading, there’s nothing we could do militarily to stop them. It was literally either continue the war or leave. The Taliban and been getting bomb relentlessly for 20 years. Chest puffing and lobbing some MOABs around wast going to change the trajectory of the situation.
This post was edited on 4/4/26 at 10:19 am
Posted on 4/4/26 at 9:57 am to RollingwiththeTide
Yea I think we need to go in Afghanistan again. While we’re at it, Iraq and wipe out the PMF and fund a new proxy that serves our interests.
Why stop with Iran? In for a penny, in for a pound. Right?
Why stop with Iran? In for a penny, in for a pound. Right?
Posted on 4/4/26 at 9:57 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:Well there was hopium in the initial negotitations?
Hopium not based in reality
Posted on 4/4/26 at 9:57 am to BluegrassCardinal
quote:
BluegrassCardinal
Yea I think we need to go in Afghanistan again. While we’re at it, Iraq and wipe out the PMF and fund a new proxy that serves our interests.
Why stop with Iran? In for a penny, in for a pound. Right?
Posted on 4/4/26 at 9:58 am to Jbird
quote:
They would negotiate like they had been for nearly a year, if not why agree to an exit to said plan?
They won the war and we agreed to remove all of our military. Why would they agree to let us keep a base when they won? They forced us to agree to remove everything because they were negotiating from a position of strength.
Posted on 4/4/26 at 9:58 am to Bunk Moreland
quote:
Yeah, this sounds like some revisionist history that we could have kept it.
I have a feeling people are about to be called Un-American or Democrats because they accurately say that the Taliban won the war
That's the next pivot
Posted on 4/4/26 at 9:59 am to SlowFlowPro
Perhaps Jbird should read Art of the Deal and learn how negotiation tactics work
Posted on 4/4/26 at 10:01 am to uziyourillusion
quote:Draw out leaving Bagram, build a SOFA and use agreement.
What would you renegotiate?
quote:The last year plus was a very limited operation.
It was literally either continue the war or leave
quote:Correct.
Chest puffing and lobbing some MOABs around want going to change the trajectory of the situation.
Posted on 4/4/26 at 10:01 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:
they accurately say that the Taliban won the war
We’re really happy for you
Posted on 4/4/26 at 10:01 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:Irrelevant!
That's the next pivot
Posted on 4/4/26 at 10:02 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:Utter and complete loss.
They won the war and we agreed to remove all of our military. Why would they agree to let us keep a base when they won? They forced us to agree to remove everything because they were negotiating from a position of strength.
Posted on 4/4/26 at 10:03 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:That's your opinion. You're entitled to it. It wouldn't be the first time you mistakenly fell to that pretext with issues involving Trump.
Hopium not based in reality
Posted on 4/4/26 at 10:04 am to NC_Tigah
quote:
You're entitled to it. It wouldn't be the first time you mistakenly fell to that pretext with issues involving Trump.
Trump wasn't even president during the period to renegotiate this deal. So no. That is literally impossible
Posted on 4/4/26 at 10:05 am to uziyourillusion
quote:uziyourillusion
The Taliban had already full control of everything else by the time Trump left.
Posted on 4/4/26 at 10:05 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:Correct your boi Joey was.
Trump wasn't even president during the period to renegotiate this deal. So no. That is literally impossible
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