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re: How Finland built the best education system in the world
Posted on 2/6/17 at 11:20 am to thejudge
Posted on 2/6/17 at 11:20 am to thejudge
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All these countries that are touted as being advanced on multiple fronts are able to heavily invest on infrastructure, etc with the savings from their somewhat nonexistent defense budgets
You could say that about so many nations. The reason why the US has such a huge military budget as opposed to other countries is partially because these other nations realize they don't need a strong military as long as the US is the world police.
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Posted on 2/6/17 at 11:22 am to cokebottleag
Been reading about their education concepts for years, and it's almost counter to the way we do things. Value recreation, less classroom time and homework, less standardized testing. Cultural differences probably enables some of their model.
Posted on 2/6/17 at 11:23 am to Antonio Moss
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It's not a money thing. There is no lack of finances in the U.S. public education system.
We're talking about how Finland did it.
Posted on 2/6/17 at 11:24 am to BulldogXero
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You could say that about so many nations. The reason why the US has such a huge military budget as opposed to other countries is partially because these other nations realize they don't need a strong military as long as the US is the world police.
Ding ding ding.
Posted on 2/6/17 at 11:38 am to goldennugget
questions of race or population are not as important as spending 55% of federal dollars on education. if you have a huge population, they are still all treated as these people are treated. they do have one enormous metro area and huge rural areas.
the whole approach is different.
and they routinely finish #1 in math in the world at every tested level.
the whole approach is different.
and they routinely finish #1 in math in the world at every tested level.
Posted on 2/6/17 at 11:38 am to RogerTheShrubber
Had to do some research on their early education programs vs ours. Discovered they think the whole early education philosophy we have is nuts, and I tend to agree (data backs it up).
Finnish kids also have MUCH higher two parent households, which is the single biggest predictor of children's success.
Finnish kids also have MUCH higher two parent households, which is the single biggest predictor of children's success.
Posted on 2/6/17 at 11:42 am to tiggerthetooth
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US has such a huge military budget as opposed to other countries is partially because these other nations realize they don't need a strong military as long as the US is the world police.
people make money off it. did we really need to spend a trillion on the Iraq war?
I doubt it. it was a boondoggle for the Anglo-American empire to attempt to take over the entire middle east. failed. waste of taxpayer's money. Bush II/Cheney lies.
once you have 100 nuclear armed missiles, a few dozen missile silos, two dozen nuclear subs, 1,000 nuclear bombers, no one will mess with your homeland.
all the rest is just profiteering.
Posted on 2/6/17 at 11:44 am to CelticDog
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it was a boondoggle for the Anglo-American empire
One must ask, otto, who have been the financiers for American and Anglo adventures since The "Glorious" Revolution?
Posted on 2/6/17 at 11:49 am to CelticDog
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people make money off it. did we really need to spend a trillion on the Iraq war?
I doubt it. it was a boondoggle for the Anglo-American empire to attempt to take over the entire middle east. failed. waste of taxpayer's money. Bush II/Cheney lies.
once you have 100 nuclear armed missiles, a few dozen missile silos, two dozen nuclear subs, 1,000 nuclear bombers, no one will mess with your homeland.
all the rest is just profiteering.
Ok, great. Agree 100%. And that has absolutely zero bearing on the fact that most of Europe benefits from Team America: World Police. Try to stay on topic.
Posted on 2/6/17 at 11:55 am to Bench McElroy
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How Finland built the best education system in the world
Tax money
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Posted on 2/6/17 at 11:55 am to Bench McElroy
I applaud the Finland way and believe it could work in certain areas of the US but we are to broad and diverse to apply one size fits all solutions. Federal oversight and blackmail is crushing the exchange of ideas and different models states should be trying to apply.
Posted on 2/6/17 at 12:08 pm to goldennugget
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The entire nation mostly being one race cant hurt
That is the only correct answer.
Same variable applies to health factors too
Being homogenous solves a shite ton of issues. And yet America is pushing full steam ahead, in the opposite direction
This post was edited on 2/6/17 at 12:17 pm
Posted on 2/6/17 at 12:12 pm to Grandioso
Note the clean cut kids too.
Posted on 2/6/17 at 12:18 pm to FearlessFreep
quote:nearly 60 years of liberal dominance of the education system
Kind of like most US schools in 1960, when we were at or near the top worldwide in every academic measure.
What do you suppose has changed?
Posted on 2/6/17 at 12:25 pm to Bench McElroy
The part of common core teaching kids to think critically is a good thing. The part that judges teachers on test scores pretty much makes sure that teachers gear their lessons towards passing multiple choice tests.
More freedom for teachers would be good if you were able to get rid of some of the tenure protections they get. I had old teachers growing up who completely checked up and just went to school to get more years toward their pension.
More freedom for teachers would be good if you were able to get rid of some of the tenure protections they get. I had old teachers growing up who completely checked up and just went to school to get more years toward their pension.
Posted on 2/6/17 at 12:27 pm to hendersonshands
quote:Agreed.
More freedom for teachers would be good if you were able to get rid of some of the tenure protections they get. I had old teachers growing up who completely checked up and just went to school to get more years toward their pension.
Teaching should also require a much higher level of education than it currently does also.
It amazes me that teaching appears to be a fallback for those who aren't very intelligent.
Sorry if that is insulting to anyone on here.
The money just doesn't pull in the intelligent at a high enough rate.
This post was edited on 2/6/17 at 12:29 pm
Posted on 2/6/17 at 12:30 pm to Bench McElroy
So how do we become small, isolated and left alone by the entire world all while achieving almost 100% racial purity?
Posted on 2/6/17 at 12:34 pm to HempHead
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I've been to Helsinki
That must have been quite a "trip".
Posted on 2/6/17 at 12:40 pm to dkreller
No amanita for me there, just lots of liquor and overpriced cigarettes. I was apparently way too friendly and loud compared to what the locals were accustomed to.
Posted on 2/6/17 at 12:41 pm to Bench McElroy
It also helps when you don't have a neighboring country sending you all their uneducated (worst and dimmest) that require basic language training from the start.
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