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How does Trump’s half billon dollar bond in NY not violate the 8th amendment?
Posted on 3/19/24 at 11:13 am
Posted on 3/19/24 at 11:13 am
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Posted on 3/19/24 at 11:15 am to Revelator
That’s probably why he is baiting them to seize his property
Posted on 3/19/24 at 11:16 am to Revelator
Because it is (D)ifferent. That's all you need to know. Keep asking questions and you will be arrested for something on J6.
Posted on 3/19/24 at 11:17 am to ItzMe1972
You didn't see the footnote about this not applying in the state of NY, or anywhere deemed inconvenient to liberal justice being applied?
Posted on 3/19/24 at 11:18 am to Revelator
I don't know for sure, but it does seem like 464 million is excessive bail for a civil suit. But then to have your access to the court denied until you pay bail is straight up NAZI.
Posted on 3/19/24 at 11:19 am to Revelator
Going out on a limb, but I assume it's because he is worth north of $2.6 billion. In his case it wouldn't really be excessive because he can comfortably pay it.
Posted on 3/19/24 at 11:20 am to Revelator
What makes you think it's excessive, or that bail is the same as a bond?
Posted on 3/19/24 at 11:22 am to The1TrueTiger
Probably only applies to criminal cases. It is a serious miscarrage of justice though.
Posted on 3/19/24 at 11:24 am to iBack8569
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Going out on a limb, but I assume it's because he is worth north of $2.6 billion. In his case it wouldn't really be excessive because he can comfortably pay it.
In your math, 1/6th of your worth isn't excessive?
Could you come up with 1/6th of your worth in cash?
Posted on 3/19/24 at 11:24 am to The1TrueTiger
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What makes you think it's excessive, or that bail is the same as a bond?
what is the purpose of bail??
do you think Trump is a "flight risk?"
or that he would '"go into hiding?"
really?????
seems that is what they'd like => to have Trump flee to some deserted island or at least find a cave and never be heard from again.
oh - what makes you think is is NOT excessive??
define 'excessive"
Posted on 3/19/24 at 11:24 am to Revelator
Does the excessive bail prohibition apply in civil matters such as this one? I don't know the answer to this, but I think of bail as only applying to criminal matters. If limited to criminal matters, then there is your answer on bail. It just would not apply.
Here, the judgment is 464 mm, so I don't see why the bond requirement is excessive; you generally have to post bond to cover the judgment. The problem, though, and it strikes me as a huge problem for the state, is that the judgment itself is an excessive fine and therefore violative of the 8th Am.
Here, the judgment is 464 mm, so I don't see why the bond requirement is excessive; you generally have to post bond to cover the judgment. The problem, though, and it strikes me as a huge problem for the state, is that the judgment itself is an excessive fine and therefore violative of the 8th Am.
Posted on 3/19/24 at 11:25 am to Steadyhands
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Could you come up with 1/6th of your worth in cash?
careful there = you may be offering a rebate.
Posted on 3/19/24 at 11:25 am to iBack8569
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Going out on a limb, but I assume it's because he is worth north of $2.6 billion. In his case it wouldn't really be excessive because he can comfortably pay it.
1/5th of you net worth is not excessive to you?
Posted on 3/19/24 at 11:33 am to iBack8569
Being a billionaire doesn't = being able to take out hundreds of millions of dollars.
Posted on 3/19/24 at 11:35 am to Revelator
It's called being a good human being
Posted on 3/19/24 at 11:36 am to N.O. via West-Cal
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Here, the judgment is 464 mm, so I don't see why the bond requirement is excessive; you generally have to post bond to cover the judgment. The problem, though, and it strikes me as a huge problem for the state, is that the judgment itself is an excessive fine and therefore violative of the 8th Am.
I'm not sure it's a violation of the 8th amendment but I admittedly haven't looked into it.
But your post is what most are skipping over. It's a bond to cover appeal. Which is normal and if the practice is the full amount of judgment then the problem is the absurdity of the judgment, not the bond (in theory). I'm sure there is some constitutional argument to be made about how it effectively eliminates the right to appeal.
Posted on 3/19/24 at 11:36 am to iBack8569
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Going out on a limb, but I assume it's because he is worth north of $2.6 billion. In his case it wouldn't really be excessive because he can comfortably pay it.
Shouldn't it be based on damages and not net worth?
This post was edited on 3/19/24 at 11:38 am
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