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re: How does a small business owner survive?

Posted on 3/16/20 at 5:15 pm to
Posted by FairhopeTider
Fairhope, Alabama
Member since May 2012
22243 posts
Posted on 3/16/20 at 5:15 pm to
I’ve talked to a lot of scared business owners in the last week. Ranging from small non-profits to mid-size retailers to CFOs of some very large multinational companies.

All of them are pretty much on the same leg when it comes to the uncertainty ahead. Very few businesses have the liquidity to last a month or two with little to no revenue. How do you pay rent or loan payments in addition to covering payroll? Throw in trying to wrangle the policy & procedures aspect of how to handle employees & operations and it’s a fricking mess. The closest thing I’ve seen to this on any level is the BP Oil Spill. Businesses could be going under due to no factors that they can control.

I have a ton of respect and sympathy for anyone who runs/owns a business right now. I think everyone needs to shed political bias after this is past and try to find solutions to make people whole.
This post was edited on 3/16/20 at 5:16 pm
Posted by Ham And Glass
Member since Nov 2016
1687 posts
Posted on 3/16/20 at 5:21 pm to
The policies of this administration have been great for small business so far. Fortunately, we've been as busy as we can be for the last year and a half. The economy has been booming and many, many small businesses have been the beneficiary of that. We have cash. And more importantly, we have a backlog. But here is the deal, if this had happened in, pick a year of the Obama Administration, say 2013, a great many more small businesses would be in a world of immediate hurt.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
464767 posts
Posted on 3/16/20 at 5:22 pm to
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Very few businesses have the liquidity to last a month or two with little to no revenue. How do you pay rent or loan payments in addition to covering payroll? Throw in trying to wrangle the policy & procedures aspect of how to handle employees & operations and it’s a fricking mess. The closest thing I’ve seen to this on any level is the BP Oil Spill. Businesses could be going under due to no factors that they can control.

"government will bail you out" is the NPC response

there isn't enough money to do this, and many companies will be dead before they could get the money
Posted by Ham And Glass
Member since Nov 2016
1687 posts
Posted on 3/16/20 at 5:33 pm to
And the mentality of most small business people is to not even consider this.....
Posted by FairhopeTider
Fairhope, Alabama
Member since May 2012
22243 posts
Posted on 3/16/20 at 5:35 pm to
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there isn't enough money to do this, and many companies will be dead before they could get the money


I don’t disagree.
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
99994 posts
Posted on 3/16/20 at 5:39 pm to
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The left wing is hoping they don't. They see this virus as a political opportunity and could care less about the welfare of the citizens


Kill small businesses and the middle class, make all those hourly workers unemployed. At the end of it all that’s left is mega corporations and a ton of people on Govt support. Liberal wet dream so they can push their socialism
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
60582 posts
Posted on 3/16/20 at 5:45 pm to
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and many companies will be dead before they could get the money


That is what the govt dependent type doesn't get. Small business rarely find the sweet spot, either no cash from expansion, or no cash from retraction. It is a razors edge, it isn't like your household.
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
53571 posts
Posted on 3/16/20 at 5:55 pm to
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if i dont make cuts and/or lay people off, maybe 2 months at this rate.

ive always kept 6 months operating costs available as cash in savings, but that was assuming a sustained worst case scenario of 50% reduction in revenue for that time frame.

its looking like an 80% reduction in revune for me right now.



Keep the faith and hopefully this BS is subsiding over the next few weeks....I wish you good luck
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
22253 posts
Posted on 3/16/20 at 8:21 pm to
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it's been here for at least a month and our ERs aren't being overridden.


You are about to get a very "real-world" lesson in the mathematical concept of geometric progression as it relates to infectious diseases.

Posted by LSUconvert
Hattiesburg, MS
Member since Aug 2007
6622 posts
Posted on 3/16/20 at 8:22 pm to
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Very few businesses have the liquidity to last a month or two with little to no revenue.


Why should this be anyone's problem?

No one cares if people have any savings to withstand this kind of thing.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
464767 posts
Posted on 3/16/20 at 8:35 pm to
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You are about to get a very "real-world" lesson in the mathematical concept of geometric progression as it relates to infectious diseases.


yes SOME areas are. Nola, for instance, is in really bad shape

we should be quarantining these areas and enacting martial law and leaving the other 90%+ of the country to deal with things before the spread reaches them.

it would be better than shutting down the whole country and bankrupting thousands of small businesses and laborers

remember, it's not just business owners. this is going to hit the lower-working class super hard, too

our GDP is $1.5T or so a month. we're going to lose trillions of dollars if we keep stopping the economy. you cannot "bail out" those sorts of losses.
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
35539 posts
Posted on 3/16/20 at 8:45 pm to
I would like to send you on an all expense paid trip courtesy of my new Oferlords in the United States Government to Bergamo, Italy.

Hope you live long there and prosper
Posted by WilsonPickett
St Amant, LA
Member since Oct 2009
1691 posts
Posted on 3/16/20 at 9:08 pm to
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The solution is simple. If you cannot afford the required paid leave, before the paid leave goes into effect, fire all of your employees.


You’re a dumbass. My employees work hard, are dedicated and I generally like them all. I never have concerns about myself and whether I’ll have money but I worry always about making business decisions because a bad one could cost good employees their jobs. My payroll is about $28000 a week not including the taxes on top of that. Plus my portion of their health insurance, 3% company IRA match. Covering that for an extended period would be tough but I’m not firing them all just incase!
Posted by jnethe1
Pearland
Member since Dec 2012
16978 posts
Posted on 3/16/20 at 9:09 pm to
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I hope most small businesses were smart and took having a healthy balance sheet very seriously.


It’s not that easy.
Posted by LSUconvert
Hattiesburg, MS
Member since Aug 2007
6622 posts
Posted on 3/16/20 at 9:16 pm to
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It’s not that easy.


What does easy have to do with it?
Posted by MarineVet
Member since Aug 2018
916 posts
Posted on 3/16/20 at 9:42 pm to
The government is telling them to shut down goofball...
Posted by s2
Southdowns
Member since Sep 2016
6264 posts
Posted on 3/16/20 at 10:57 pm to
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I would like to send you on an all expense paid trip courtesy of my new Oferlords in the United States Government to Bergamo, Italy.

i got the number for a Hoover Vacuum dealer in Albuquerque, NM. maybe he could take care of the transportation end for this POS.
Posted by Summer of George
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2010
5999 posts
Posted on 3/17/20 at 12:38 am to
That’s what the media and left want. Tank economy and trump in election year bc OMB.
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
26871 posts
Posted on 3/17/20 at 12:42 am to
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Shits bad enough without you people trying to make it worse


Obama/Biden/Bernie/Warren: "You didn't build that!"

Small business owners: "The left is anti-business!"

You: "Shits bad enough without you people trying to make it worse"

Lick my balls.
This post was edited on 3/17/20 at 12:48 am
Posted by Summer of George
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2010
5999 posts
Posted on 3/17/20 at 12:43 am to
frick off
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