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re: How do people get addicted to alcohol?
Posted on 12/31/21 at 8:24 pm to aTmTexas Dillo
Posted on 12/31/21 at 8:24 pm to aTmTexas Dillo
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So opioids were no problem for me but apparently they are as addictive as sex.
I think the most common theme amongst those who go all out addicted to opiates, alcohol etc etc is the existence of some sort of unresolved trauma at some point in one's life, either recent or far in the past. Sometimes it's obvious and known to the addicted person, and easy to pinpoint. Other times it's a sneaky devil that's very subtly abused one's soul. In other words, sometimes a person can easily say "I know exactly what I need to very seriously address," while other times it's like "woah, I didn't realize that thing had such a terrible effect on me".
**And also of course there's the genetics and hereditary factor. Either of those can be the cause on its own, and very unfortunately sometimes a single individual gets hammered by both the genetics aspect PLUS the unresolved trauma aspect. That is very unfair stuff.
This post was edited on 12/31/21 at 8:27 pm
Posted on 12/31/21 at 8:24 pm to Flats
Feel normal. Been doing this for over 20 years.
Posted on 12/31/21 at 8:25 pm to Flats
From the time I was a young boy my only true addiction has been a big, fatty, juicey....cheeseburger. Today 60+ years later it's very hard to say no to one.
Seriously drugs were never a problem, even through my Vietnam adventure. Many years ago I was seriously hurt and spent 17 days in the hospital. Early in my stay they administered morphine for my extreme pain. WOW!!!!..what a feeling. I can see why people can go out on that ledge. Later in life when I was diagnosed with stage 4 cancer, they have me oxi. I took them but never took the first one. I remembered that morphine high and knew I didn't want to go down that road.
Alcohol was, and never has been a problem. I drink but have always known my limitations.
I believe that most people become addicted because they are having problems in life and need an escape or acceptance from someone who is in that life. Whether it be loneliness, pain, abuse, or any other reason, they are looking for an escape.
Seriously drugs were never a problem, even through my Vietnam adventure. Many years ago I was seriously hurt and spent 17 days in the hospital. Early in my stay they administered morphine for my extreme pain. WOW!!!!..what a feeling. I can see why people can go out on that ledge. Later in life when I was diagnosed with stage 4 cancer, they have me oxi. I took them but never took the first one. I remembered that morphine high and knew I didn't want to go down that road.
Alcohol was, and never has been a problem. I drink but have always known my limitations.
I believe that most people become addicted because they are having problems in life and need an escape or acceptance from someone who is in that life. Whether it be loneliness, pain, abuse, or any other reason, they are looking for an escape.
Posted on 12/31/21 at 8:27 pm to Flats
There are those genetically pre-disposed to it. For those with such a weakness, when alcohol is introduced, it begins to create a physiological reliance through causing changes in the body's natural state of being. For some it's more gradual, for others it happens faster.
There are those who develop a psychological dependency on it, often through repeated use as a means of coping.
One big problem is you often don't know which you are until it's too late.
My father suffered from both. His paternal grandfather was such an abusive drunk that his paternal grandmother killed herself to get away from him by standing in front of an oncoming train. His father (my grandfather) stopped drinking when my father was a young child because he liked it too much. That realization, coupled with his childhood, made him realize there was no good end coming from him continuing to drink (so much so that even though he was faithful in his Christianity, he wouldn't even have wine as part of church services).
My aunt (my father's sister) and her older child both ended up with strong chemical dependencies. She was eventually able to use AA to walk away from her drinking (she also had a pill problem when I was very young) but my cousin's "rock bottom" was the grave. As was my father's.
My father also suffered from the psychological addiction (as many with physical addictions do). He was a very charismatic and social person, but he simply could not function in groups without the security of having a drink in his hand. And if it was in his hand, he was going to drink it soooo.... yeah.
Each can lead to the other to varying degrees and both tend to have an amplifying effect on each other. This is what can make getting sober so incredibly difficult as it's the extremely rare individual who can put down the bottle and force themselves to walk away and never pick it up again. Most people need help and they often need to hit "rock bottom" for help (and everyone's "rock bottom" is at a different level).
There are those who develop a psychological dependency on it, often through repeated use as a means of coping.
One big problem is you often don't know which you are until it's too late.
My father suffered from both. His paternal grandfather was such an abusive drunk that his paternal grandmother killed herself to get away from him by standing in front of an oncoming train. His father (my grandfather) stopped drinking when my father was a young child because he liked it too much. That realization, coupled with his childhood, made him realize there was no good end coming from him continuing to drink (so much so that even though he was faithful in his Christianity, he wouldn't even have wine as part of church services).
My aunt (my father's sister) and her older child both ended up with strong chemical dependencies. She was eventually able to use AA to walk away from her drinking (she also had a pill problem when I was very young) but my cousin's "rock bottom" was the grave. As was my father's.
My father also suffered from the psychological addiction (as many with physical addictions do). He was a very charismatic and social person, but he simply could not function in groups without the security of having a drink in his hand. And if it was in his hand, he was going to drink it soooo.... yeah.
Each can lead to the other to varying degrees and both tend to have an amplifying effect on each other. This is what can make getting sober so incredibly difficult as it's the extremely rare individual who can put down the bottle and force themselves to walk away and never pick it up again. Most people need help and they often need to hit "rock bottom" for help (and everyone's "rock bottom" is at a different level).
Posted on 12/31/21 at 8:28 pm to Big Scrub TX
There’s the rub. Drink enough and you will eventually take a drink to feel better the next day. That drink to “take the edge off the hangover” starts getting earlier and earlier. A drink in the morning isn’t the last thing a true alcoholic wants, it’s the only thing he wants.
Posted on 12/31/21 at 8:28 pm to aTmTexas Dillo
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and hammer down a fifth of decent bourbon.
If a fifth is 25 ounces, I hope there are 5 or 6 of you drinking it.
Otherwise you guys are getting lamp shade wearing, knee walking drunk.
Posted on 12/31/21 at 8:31 pm to TigerMikeAtl
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Early in my stay they administered morphine for my extreme pain. WOW!!!!..what a feeling. I can see why people can go out on that ledge.
Same, opiates scare me a bit. If someone offered me 100 pills of oxy for free I’d turn it down. I’ve taken them because kidney stones suck but I’ve also declined a couple of prescriptions because I didn’t really need them and knew I’d take them anyway.
Posted on 12/31/21 at 8:58 pm to Flats
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I thought I explained it; it's not a judgment thing. I'm just curious how people push through the bad feeling drinking to much gives you. If Copenhagen made me feel like shite the next day I'd never have become addicted to it.
Apologies. I’m defensive. For me my alcoholism comes from a tendency of one more. Just one more drink. No big deal. Etc. I’ve never thought about the next day hang over at all. It’s delusional of course but that’s what alcohol does.
Posted on 12/31/21 at 8:59 pm to Flats
So I’ve been a pretty heavy drinker the past ten years. I woke up today in excruciating acute pain in my back. Right flank. fricking inflamed liver. I will not have another drop if it means I don’t feel like that ever again. I thought an alien was about to pop out.
Posted on 12/31/21 at 9:04 pm to Flats
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But there's a point where it makes me feel bad.
Not for me. If you drink too much sure. But most people know their limits
Posted on 12/31/21 at 9:05 pm to kingbob
Mix your whiskey with water no hangovers… had to quit drinking during the week at one point was up to a handle a week of Jim beam
Posted on 12/31/21 at 9:05 pm to Flats
By watching things like the last google commercial I saw
Posted on 12/31/21 at 9:05 pm to Flats
When I start taking sips for no reason it sets off an internal flag. I drop it and won’t do it for another few days. When I was in college I drank to get drunk every time instead of drinking to socialize.
Posted on 12/31/21 at 9:18 pm to blowmeauburn
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Apologies. I’m defensive.
No worries, it’s an odd thing to be curious about. I’d just lectured my son on being extra defensive driving home tonight and it sent me down a rabbit hole.
Posted on 12/31/21 at 9:19 pm to Flats
quote:No. Hangovers only get worse as you get older.
Are there people who don't get hangovers and that makes it really easy for them to get addicted to alcohol?
Personally, I can’t drink every night because I just can’t physically do it and don’t crave it. If I have a few or several drinks one night, I just don’t feel like drinking for a couple or several days afterwards.
People that drink too much every day have serious problems that they’re trying to escape. Fortunately I’m not there.
Posted on 12/31/21 at 9:26 pm to Flats
Where to start....I don't know if your post comes from someone who's never ad any challenge in life, or someone who is incredibly naïve on the world. Alcohol can be an incredibly fun yet addicting substance to partake.
People typically have a genic disposition to be addicted to it, but some just go through horrible events in their lives. Some recover and some do not. There is no judgement to be had here. I, myself, am easily addicted. Any hint of stress or event has me wanting a glass. The important part is knowing the stressors and bringing your mindset elsewhere. For me, that stressor hit is lifting. Sure, the drink is easier, but the discipline of lifting instead brings my mindset back.
There isn't a blame for addiction.
People typically have a genic disposition to be addicted to it, but some just go through horrible events in their lives. Some recover and some do not. There is no judgement to be had here. I, myself, am easily addicted. Any hint of stress or event has me wanting a glass. The important part is knowing the stressors and bringing your mindset elsewhere. For me, that stressor hit is lifting. Sure, the drink is easier, but the discipline of lifting instead brings my mindset back.
There isn't a blame for addiction.
Posted on 12/31/21 at 9:26 pm to Flats
My reason is I like well crafted beer and spirits….it’s a matter of self control…for some it’s not easy.
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