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re: How COVID Shots Suppress Your Immune System

Posted on 2/8/22 at 3:18 pm to
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 2/8/22 at 3:18 pm to
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She should know better. She does know better, but assumes you don't.


That's a cool website. Interesting.

Posted by LakeCharles
USA
Member since Oct 2016
5051 posts
Posted on 2/8/22 at 5:30 pm to
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Long term data does exist. They have been trying to develop a mRNA shot for a couple of decades. To date they have yet to succeed in developing a mRNA shot that does more good than harm.

There are actually two issues. The first is the mRNA vaccination. The second is the spike protein. Despite 30 years of research into mRNA vaccines, we have no long-term data at all on the effect of this spike protein. Anyone with any common sense would think injecting this into anyone that was not significantly at risk from covid is stupid. Injecting it into every human on earth is literally insane. What are the results if it makes men or women sterile in 5 years? Causes cancer? Autoimmune disease? It can actually end civilization or even the human race. No one knows what the long-term effects will be. Never before has there been such a combination of anti-science bullshite and stupidity as there has been in the last 2 years. If humanity survives, it's going to be luck and not science that pulls us through. I have completely lost respect for medicine in the last 2 years. If I get a severe case of covid that does not seem to be responding to HCQ or Ivermectin, I am headed to the bait shop to buy a couple dozen leeches. At the time leeches and bloodletting were used, the scientists of the time were actually thinking for themselves, doing research, and not bullshite political moves.

Posted by FlexDawg
Member since Jan 2018
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Posted on 2/8/22 at 5:46 pm to
Downvotes from regretful people who don’t want to believe it.
Posted by BuzzSaw 12
The Dark Side Of The Moon
Member since Dec 2010
5227 posts
Posted on 2/8/22 at 6:29 pm to
Pretty much the case. Not one of them has attempted to refute what's in the article. In typical fashion they attack the source.
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
32219 posts
Posted on 2/8/22 at 6:37 pm to
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BamaAtl
Well jump in here and tell us what's wrong with the linked article.
Posted by CubsFanBudMan
Member since Jul 2008
5064 posts
Posted on 2/8/22 at 7:01 pm to
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Anyone with an IQ over 90 should have known a rapidly developed untested mRNA genetherapy COULD have unintended consequences.


This is complete bull shite. mRNA vaccines have been in development for over a decade. Just because they haven't been able to successfully implement one before doesn't mean that this one was rushed and untested.
Posted by Uncle Stu
#AlbinoLivesMatter
Member since Aug 2004
33659 posts
Posted on 2/8/22 at 7:42 pm to
So: lemming minded leftist wokistans, getting high on Faucijuana, are too stupid to know when they're being spoonfed brainwashing lies by the MSM, government and cultural leaders. Too weak and spineless to take responsibility for their own lives, they're instructed to take repeated jabs which weakens their ability to fight off disease, shortening their lifespan and thinning out the gene pool....

Charles Darwin
Posted by Seldom Seen
Member since Feb 2016
39990 posts
Posted on 2/8/22 at 7:47 pm to
The Vaccine is literally HIV.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
39136 posts
Posted on 2/8/22 at 7:51 pm to
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If humanity survives, it's going to be luck and not science that pulls us through

I think we’re going to make it!
Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
Member since Nov 2012
46505 posts
Posted on 2/8/22 at 8:47 pm to
Joseph Mercola

He literally took the well known mechanisms by which viral infections themselves, including covid, can suppress your immune system and then just replaced the natural infection with the vaccine. It couldn’t be more transparent what he’s doing.
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
45994 posts
Posted on 2/8/22 at 8:50 pm to
My 53 year old niece …no pics, just came down with shingles….double vaxxed and BOOSTED! My brother had a issue with his tongue after the first shot where his tongue hurt for 2-3 days and then peeled, 2nd shot did the same thing.
Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
Member since Nov 2012
46505 posts
Posted on 2/8/22 at 8:52 pm to
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Despite 30 years of research into mRNA vaccines, we have no long-term data at all on the effect of this spike protein.


The half life of the spike proteins are four days and they’re completely cleared from your body in less than three weeks
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
45994 posts
Posted on 2/8/22 at 8:54 pm to
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How is type-1 interferon suppressed by the jab? It’s suppressed because type-1 interferon responds to viral RNA, and viral RNA is not present in the COVID shot. The RNA is modified to look like human RNA molecule, so the interferon pathway is not triggered. Worse, the interferon pathway is actively suppressed by the large number of spike proteins produced from the mRNA in the shot, and by the microRNAs in the exosomes released by the stressed immune cells.


I know Dr McCullough and Dr Malone both agree those who take the Covid19 vaccines do not get good T cell response when checked after 8-9 months. Seems the body needs the complete virus to get a good T cell response.
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
45994 posts
Posted on 2/8/22 at 8:57 pm to
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My hospital is full of sick children who are dying from covid.


This doctor is a fricking liar.


The medical establishment and government are still running PSAs that claim getting the vaccine stops the spread.
Posted by BuzzSaw 12
The Dark Side Of The Moon
Member since Dec 2010
5227 posts
Posted on 2/8/22 at 10:46 pm to
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The half life of the spike proteins are four days and they’re completely cleared from your body in less than three weeks


LINK

Seems these doctors disagree with you.

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This paper discusses the recent study by Bansal et al. [1] on the detection of spike protein in persons vaccinated with the Pfizer mRNA vaccine. The most significant finding is that spike protein is found on exosomes, that is, cell-derived vesicles, for at least four months after the second injection. This surprisingly long persistence raises the prospect of sustained inflammation within and damage to organs which express the spike protein.
Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
Member since Nov 2012
46505 posts
Posted on 2/9/22 at 7:46 am to
A non-peer reviewed paper from a site called “docs 4 covid ethics”?

Do some of you ever stop and think about why it is you’re always having to go to the deepest darkest corners of the Internet to find “evidence” to support your claims? Why you’re always having to have malware removed from your computers?
Posted by BuzzSaw 12
The Dark Side Of The Moon
Member since Dec 2010
5227 posts
Posted on 2/9/22 at 9:20 am to
So predictable. Yet again attack the source because you can't debate or refute the information. We all know in your world the only thing that is credible is crap that gets reported by the liberal media. You leftists have paraded around for years claiming how open minded you are yet in reality you're the most closed-minded lunatics on the planet. Oh, and btw my computer is just fine since you seemed concerned. Sort of a weird flex there.
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
21875 posts
Posted on 2/9/22 at 9:29 am to
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you can't debate or refute the information.


What is there to debate? They don't think their results and/or conclusions will hold up to scrutiny, or else they'd submit it to peer-review.

Why are you so high on results that the authors are admitting they don't trust and is purely opinion?
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
34959 posts
Posted on 2/9/22 at 9:33 am to
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BamaAtl


Suh bitchatl.

Care to talk about the 70+ page, 5 experiment study produced by the distinguished liberal Yale university, authored by a black female, PEER REVIEWED, that states, conclusively, that white liberals dumb down their vocabulary and speech patterns when dealing with black people while white conservatives do not dumb down their vocabulary or speech patterns when talking to black people.



None of your cohort liberals seem to want to touch the study with a 10 foot pole…. I’m not sure why, but tboy, 56lsu, c on z, etc all run away when confronted….

Maybe you, being the “I’m such an intellectual” won’t run away.


Care to comment?

Click here to see how white liberals are raysis
This post was edited on 2/9/22 at 9:36 am
Posted by ThuperThumpin
Member since Dec 2013
7300 posts
Posted on 2/9/22 at 10:43 am to
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So predictable. Yet again attack the source because you can't debate or refute the information.


FWIW many of Bhakdi and Palmer's claims have been refuted by various outlets.

Here is a summary article LINK

If you want you can read the Danish Study link at the bottom of that page yourself and then compare it to Bhakdi's claims. He is making claims that the author of studies are absolutely refuting.
I agree there is a LOT of bullshite going around about this virus and has been since the beginning. Its coming from all sides though and has made a ton of people neurotic over the issue.
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