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re: How can the average person afford to live?

Posted on 9/2/23 at 4:57 pm to
Posted by Houag80
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Posted on 9/2/23 at 4:57 pm to
Absolutely
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
20988 posts
Posted on 9/2/23 at 5:07 pm to
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And these cold fricking a-hole boomers who have no idea what it’s like just give these frick you platitudes of “oh well just work hard”

Well frick you man. We are. When you were our age, you could work at the fricking grocery store or fricking McDonald’s and own a home and support your damn family. God that fricking makes me so fricking mad. Boomers need to just kick the bucket

This is hilarious and sad at the same time. Hilarious because an (apparent) adult is this retarded and soft, and sad because he's not alone.
This post was edited on 9/2/23 at 5:09 pm
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
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Posted on 9/2/23 at 5:09 pm to
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When you were our age, you could work at the fricking grocery store or fricking McDonald’s and own a home and support your damn family
When Boomers were your age, they had a better grasp of reality than you do, even when they were dropping acid.
Posted by Houag80
Member since Jul 2019
14845 posts
Posted on 9/2/23 at 5:13 pm to
You are much more measured and polite than I when some woefully inadequate "adult" wishes death on millions. But the reality is there's just a few of these immature types.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 9/2/23 at 5:15 pm to
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When you were our age, you could work at the fricking grocery store or fricking McDonald’s and own a home and support your damn family. God that fricking makes me so fricking mad. Boomers need to just kick the bucket.


You still can. A manager at a fast food restaurant makes at least $50k-$75k. A grocery store manager is going to make the same or a little more.

A dual-income family with a couple of fast food managers or grocery store manager is going to be able to live comfortably.

Get to work.
Posted by dbbuilder79
Overton NV
Member since Dec 2010
4513 posts
Posted on 9/2/23 at 5:30 pm to
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Gas heading back down 2.95 a gallon


bullshite.


I just filled up my truck. $96 and I had almost a quarter of a tank.

Diesel in southern Nevada is right at $5. I don't see any indication that it's dropping.
Posted by Richleau
Member since Dec 2018
3313 posts
Posted on 9/2/23 at 5:37 pm to
Just answer the question. It’s a simple concept. You won’t though and we all know why. Times were easier then financially and no matter how many metrics someone puts to to prove it, you’ll never admit it.

And no one said anyone should be euthanized ya little baby.
This post was edited on 9/2/23 at 5:38 pm
Posted by Nosevens
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14793 posts
Posted on 9/2/23 at 5:39 pm to
You will be driven into owning nothing and you won’t like it
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
20988 posts
Posted on 9/2/23 at 6:08 pm to
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Times were easier then financially and no matter how many metrics someone puts to to prove it, you’ll never admit it.

Your metrics are bullshite and you should be pissed at the people that convinced you of them.

Why do you think "boomers had it so easy and you have it so hard" is any different than "the world is going to end in 12 years if we don't let democrats make all the decisions" or "hundreds of unarmed black men are killed by cops every year" or "Covid is going to kill us all unless you surrender your freedoms and let us tank the economy"?

The argument that things are tougher now is asinine.
Posted by Richleau
Member since Dec 2018
3313 posts
Posted on 9/2/23 at 6:22 pm to
Again, I’m doing fine. It’s my friends that I care about that are not. Student debt is a big reason as to why for them which is why I posed the question to the old Ag who went here in the 70s. Sadly he’s not man enough to even answer it. But government intervention is the larger issue anyway. Get the government away from business, reduce regulation, reduce taxes on production, remove the payroll tax and remove the IRS and switch to a consumption tax. Everyone wins.
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
20988 posts
Posted on 9/2/23 at 6:25 pm to
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Again, I’m doing fine. It’s my friends that I care about that are not.

My comments were made in general, I wasn't singling you out. But it's a common theme with the younger generations, that somehow the laws of economics, improvements in technology, etc., have conspired to do the opposite of what they actually do, and their economic lives are more difficult than their parents and grandparents.

Broadly - life gets easier and better. Not worse and more difficult.
Posted by Damone
FoCo
Member since Aug 2016
32966 posts
Posted on 9/2/23 at 6:26 pm to
Boomers and their ilk will never admit that because it requires them to admit that times were easier and therefore their accomplishments weren’t what they make them out to be.
Posted by Richleau
Member since Dec 2018
3313 posts
Posted on 9/2/23 at 6:58 pm to
Economics have nothing to do with it. Government intervention that grew massively under previous generations watch has everything to do with why times are more difficult now. So again, thanks boomers and the flower children. Nicely done.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 9/2/23 at 7:01 pm to
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Oh, bullshite. Work hard, advance, don’t get divorced, don’t engage in substance abuse, don’t commit crimes and live within your means. These are simple rules. Almost anyone who follows them will get ahead - way ahead.


Or you can just wait for government to step in and do things like enact tariffs to save your job
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
20988 posts
Posted on 9/2/23 at 7:17 pm to
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Economics have nothing to do with it. Government intervention that grew massively under previous generations watch has everything to do with why times are more difficult now. So again, thanks boomers and the flower children. Nicely done.

So it's political? Then why blame boomers, it's the younger generations electing all these progressives.

What is more difficult now than it was 30-40 years ago?
Posted by Richleau
Member since Dec 2018
3313 posts
Posted on 9/2/23 at 7:39 pm to
Because this has been an unsolved problem since FDR and Wilson which got worse under Nixon and Carter and then obviously brought to a fever pitch under the Bush clan and beyond. So yeah, I think it’s fair to say they were derelict in their duty, but you’re right not completely to blame.
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
20988 posts
Posted on 9/2/23 at 7:41 pm to
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Because this has been an unsolved problem since FDR and Wilson which got worse under Nixon and Carter and then obviously brought to a fever pitch under the Bush clan and beyond. So yeah, I think it’s fair to say they were derelict in their duty, but you’re right not completely to blame.

I agree that more gov't leads to less desirable outcomes, so a question - why is the generation that's bitching the most voting for more gov't? I'm not suggesting you vote for progressives - but I'm curious about your opinion as to why the younger the voter, the more gov't they vote for.

And I'll ask again - what's harder now than 30-40 years ago?
This post was edited on 9/2/23 at 7:43 pm
Posted by geauxbrown
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
22830 posts
Posted on 9/2/23 at 7:47 pm to
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Richleau


I don’t mean any disrespect, but you sound like the college graduates that were interviewing with me for jobs just before I retired.

They wanted to know about company vehicles, bonuses, personal offices and assistants. The vast majority had never held a job.
Posted by FriscoTiger1973
Frisco, Texas
Member since Jan 2012
1414 posts
Posted on 9/2/23 at 7:53 pm to
This is total BS, none of it is relevant to todays problems. It doesn’t matter how hard you work if prices rise faster than your income.
Posted by Richleau
Member since Dec 2018
3313 posts
Posted on 9/2/23 at 7:59 pm to
That’s a cultural battle unfortunately. I have hope though that’s it’s more of a tyranny of the minority. Social media cuts both ways and we need more leadership to be courageous and suffer the arrows to say what is right. That’s the hero generation’s role as told in the Fourth Turning. The role of the millennials so it’s all good. It’s just the cyclical nature of civilization.

What’s more difficult is cost of education is at an all time high. Cost of Homes are at an all time high forcing people to either live at home or rent. Rent as a result is at an all time high as well.
Taxation is obviously a burden but that’s always been the case. A reduction there would cure all ills.
I guess what I’m ranting about is a need for a cultural revolution. That’s why I support guys like Vivek who are trying to bring about that revolution.

I mean, it’s not completely true though that youth have created more government. Post 9/11 has seen the patriot act, fisa, the creation of homeland security. Pre 9/11 you had the creation of the department of education, the nuclear regulatory commission, etc. like I said. It’s been going on for a long time.
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