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House GOP members unveil sweeping immigration reform bill
Posted on 1/11/18 at 2:41 pm
Posted on 1/11/18 at 2:41 pm
The bill takes a tough stance on illegal immigration enforcement and addresses the future of Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) recipients.
Of the 70 security points included in the Trump administration's immigration wish list sent to Congress in October, half -- 35 -- are not included in Goodlatte's bill. But the bill does contain much of what the president has said he wants to see in an immigration bill: a plan to fund the border wall and to end the chain migration system as well as the visa lottery program.
The bill also includes a long-term plan for DACA recipients that outlines a potential path to citizenship while not necessarily favoring DACA recipients over other immigrants seeking citizenship.
It's going to address DACA in a permanent way, not a temporary short-term thing," Goodlatte told Mr. Trump in the Tuesday meeting. "We're going to address the border enforcement and security and the wall. We're going to address — in Mr. McCaul's bill, we're going to address interior enforcement, but not everything that the administration had on its list. We're going to address chain migration. We're going to end the visa lottery program. We're going to address sanctuary cities and Kate's Law."
"Kate's law" references 32-year-old Kate Steinle, who was shot and killed in San Francisco by an undocumented immigrant with seven felony convictions who had already been deported five times, and increases the maximum penalty for criminals who entered the country illegally.
It appears that Goodlatte's bill has strong Republican support in the House, but, should it pass, its future in the Senate is less clear. LINK
Of the 70 security points included in the Trump administration's immigration wish list sent to Congress in October, half -- 35 -- are not included in Goodlatte's bill. But the bill does contain much of what the president has said he wants to see in an immigration bill: a plan to fund the border wall and to end the chain migration system as well as the visa lottery program.
The bill also includes a long-term plan for DACA recipients that outlines a potential path to citizenship while not necessarily favoring DACA recipients over other immigrants seeking citizenship.
It's going to address DACA in a permanent way, not a temporary short-term thing," Goodlatte told Mr. Trump in the Tuesday meeting. "We're going to address the border enforcement and security and the wall. We're going to address — in Mr. McCaul's bill, we're going to address interior enforcement, but not everything that the administration had on its list. We're going to address chain migration. We're going to end the visa lottery program. We're going to address sanctuary cities and Kate's Law."
"Kate's law" references 32-year-old Kate Steinle, who was shot and killed in San Francisco by an undocumented immigrant with seven felony convictions who had already been deported five times, and increases the maximum penalty for criminals who entered the country illegally.
It appears that Goodlatte's bill has strong Republican support in the House, but, should it pass, its future in the Senate is less clear. LINK
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Posted on 1/11/18 at 2:51 pm to Jbird
The house version is definitely way better. The cuck bill in the senate can get fricked. It needs to change our legal immigration system to being merit based though.
Still want no citizenship at all for DACA kids as they came here illegally and should not be rewarded with that. However, I'm fine with a permanent green card.
Still want no citizenship at all for DACA kids as they came here illegally and should not be rewarded with that. However, I'm fine with a permanent green card.
Posted on 1/11/18 at 2:53 pm to Jbird
still not strong enough, IMO.
Posted on 1/11/18 at 2:56 pm to Jbird
So, why does the Senate always seem more aloof to the concerns of the average hard working tax paying citizen than the House?
I think it's because they are more entrenched in the 'laws are for the people to obey... not for me' mentality.
I recently read that during Prohibition about 70% of the Congress were drinking bootleg (highest quality, of course). They even got so brazen as to set their supplier up with an office in the capital building so they wouldn't have to walk out among the common folk to get their cocktails.
It's a good argument for term limits. The longer you're in charge the longer you are convinced that you are meant to tell others how to live their lives while you live your life as you please.
I think it's because they are more entrenched in the 'laws are for the people to obey... not for me' mentality.
I recently read that during Prohibition about 70% of the Congress were drinking bootleg (highest quality, of course). They even got so brazen as to set their supplier up with an office in the capital building so they wouldn't have to walk out among the common folk to get their cocktails.
It's a good argument for term limits. The longer you're in charge the longer you are convinced that you are meant to tell others how to live their lives while you live your life as you please.
Posted on 1/11/18 at 2:56 pm to Sentrius
That's been the solution for years. You can stay, but no way in hell you get citizenship. They're kids are going to citizens anyway because of anchor baby laws. I'd love to see them all deported, but we all knew that was essentially and impossible feat.
The media would portray its kristallnacht 2.0.
You get a green card, but you also get no Gov't benefits and must graduate from high school.... Otherwise... Bye bye.
The media would portray its kristallnacht 2.0.
You get a green card, but you also get no Gov't benefits and must graduate from high school.... Otherwise... Bye bye.
Posted on 1/11/18 at 2:59 pm to Jbird
Would be fine with this if the words “path to citizenship” were deleted and the words “path to legal permanent residency without voting rights ever, and including increased taxes and SS contributions until back income taxes are paid.”
Posted on 1/11/18 at 3:05 pm to Zach
quote:
So, why does the Senate always seem more aloof to the concerns of the average hard working tax paying citizen than the House?
The house is more directly answerable to the concerns of their districts which is more interested/engaged and partisan than what Senators answer to.
Senators are far more removed from accountability when they represent an entire state which has a less and less interested/engaged and partisan electoral make up an than a house race.
And this is precisely why the framers made the Senate being answerable to state governments, not the masses themselves.
The 17th amendment needs to be abolished.
Posted on 1/11/18 at 3:08 pm to Zach
quote:
why does the Senate always seem more aloof to the concerns of the average hard working tax paying citizen than the House?
Because the Senators are elected in statewide elections, they cater to population centers (e.g. big cities) that are generally more liberal. The original design was that the Senators represented the state itself (not a portion of the population) and were therefore appointed by each state legislature. Unfortunately for us, the 17th amendment changed made statewide elections the means to become a senator and therefore their focus has been on the population centers ever since.
If the 17th amendment never happened or was repealed, MANY of the terrible bills would have been prevented -- especially ones where the Federal government pushes down unpopular mandates to the states. Thus, states' rights would make a comeback.
Posted on 1/11/18 at 3:19 pm to SlackMaster
quote:
Because the Senators are elected in statewide elections, they cater to population centers (e.g. big cities) that are generally more liberal. The original design was that the Senators represented the state itself (not a portion of the population) and were therefore appointed by each state legislature. Unfortunately for us, the 17th amendment changed made statewide elections the means to become a senator and therefore their focus has been on the population centers ever since.
If the 17th amendment never happened or was repealed, MANY of the terrible bills would have been prevented -- especially ones where the Federal government pushes down unpopular mandates to the states. Thus, states' rights would make a comeback.
The 17th amendment is one of the biggest victories ever for the american left and the damage from it has been nothing short of catastrophic with the biggest examples of it in medicaid, social security, FISA, patriot act, ObamaCare, a deeply flawed civil rights bill that encroaches on private property rights, amnesty to illegal aliens, FDR's new deal bullshite that only prolonged the great depression.
At the time, the states appointing the senators was the biggest obstacle facing the left's goals to push overreaching programs and laws and have states pay for it.
Posted on 1/11/18 at 3:19 pm to SlackMaster
Your theory ignores that population centers elect the most people in state legislatures.
This post was edited on 1/11/18 at 3:20 pm
Posted on 1/11/18 at 3:25 pm to Sentrius
quote:
The house version is definitely way better. The cuck bill in the senate can get fricked. It needs to change our legal immigration system to being merit based though. Still want no citizenship at all for DACA kids as they came here illegally and should not be rewarded with that. However, I'm fine with a permanent green card.
Agree, depending on their lack of a criminal record, Sent. Or efforts toward gainful employment and responsible civic behavior.
Posted on 1/11/18 at 4:10 pm to Jbird
I will never agree to amnesty for kids or parents. frick them. Want to come into this country? Go to the back of the line, which is in your home country. OUT!
This post was edited on 1/11/18 at 4:11 pm
Posted on 1/11/18 at 4:25 pm to Jbird
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"Kate's law" references 32-year-old Kate Steinle, who was shot and killed in San Francisco by an undocumented immigrant with seven felony convictions who had already been deported five times, and increases the maximum penalty for criminals who entered the country illegally.
It's amazing that zero Dems GAF about this. They can still play their "we love immigrants" card while providing a safe and secure America. Nope.
Posted on 1/11/18 at 4:30 pm to Zach
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I recently read that during Prohibition about 70% of the Congress were drinking bootleg (highest quality, of course). They even got so brazen as to set their supplier up with an office in the capital building so they wouldn't have to walk out among the common folk to get their cocktails.
dont lie, you watched that shite on TV this morning (mystery museum) just like i did, about the man in the green hat
love how he burned it all down when no one helped him after getting busted when 90% of congress was his customers
Posted on 1/11/18 at 5:23 pm to Sentrius
quote:
The 17th amendment is one of the biggest victories ever for the american left and the damage from it has been nothing short of catastrophic with the biggest examples of it in medicaid, social security, FISA, patriot act, ObamaCare, a deeply flawed civil rights bill that encroaches on private property rights, amnesty to illegal aliens, FDR's new deal bullshite that only prolonged the great depression.
At the time, the states appointing the senators was the biggest obstacle facing the left's goals to push overreaching programs and laws and have states pay for it.
That's the propose of the US house.
We're they asleep?
Posted on 1/11/18 at 7:30 pm to CelticDog
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Your theory ignores that population centers elect the most people in state legislatures.
Actually, it doesn't ignore that. However, because the senator must represent that state itself, he'll be more balanced. And more importantly, he would have an interest in stopping federal overreach.
Posted on 1/11/18 at 7:39 pm to Jbird
CBS news
Half his wish list is NOT in there instead of half his wish list IS in there.
Surprise, surprise, they went negative.
Half his wish list is NOT in there instead of half his wish list IS in there.
Surprise, surprise, they went negative.
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