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re: Horrific story in Baton Rouge with new facts coming out
Posted on 1/24/23 at 12:39 pm to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 1/24/23 at 12:39 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Glad to know your primary focus of this story is racial
No ma'am, it's just calling a spade a spade.
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Posted on 1/24/23 at 12:40 pm to BurntOrangeMan
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Glad to know your primary focus of this story is racialquote:
No ma'am, it's just calling a spade a spade.
Posted on 1/24/23 at 12:42 pm to squid_hunt
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How did you think it was going to end? If I got that plastered and attacked someone, I would be held liable for my actions. If I got myself killed, you'd be mocking my stupidity. How is her behavior any different?
You’re a dumbass.
Posted on 1/24/23 at 12:44 pm to brass2mouth
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I have a hard time with this third degree rape crape. Unless she was passed out or they forced themselves, it’s not rape. Whose to say the males weren’t drunk as well? We’ll never know because they weren’t tested.
There were four of them, one being almost thirty. They knew they were taking advantage of her, they knew they left her in a bad spot, and they knew what they were doing was wrong.
Posted on 1/24/23 at 12:46 pm to Wednesday
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Yes
I know. That’s why I said the same thing.
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Good luck doing that when alumni send their precious daughters here to get raped and murdered by randos that the NAACP buys lawyers to defend, when they actually find the criminals.
I agree with you. The City and I suppose eventually the State have to fix that issue. Hell, give the state LEO jurisdiction for the entire area around campus if that is what is needed. Still don’t see how Tate is any part of that beyond pressuring for those solutions privately.
Posted on 1/24/23 at 12:48 pm to Indefatigable
It's actually First Degree rape if she's that incapacitated.
It's also manslaughter. She was dumped on the side of the road 4x the legal limit to cover up the rape and kidnapping. Felony murder. Doesn't matter someone else ran her over. They put here there in harms way = murder.
It's also manslaughter. She was dumped on the side of the road 4x the legal limit to cover up the rape and kidnapping. Felony murder. Doesn't matter someone else ran her over. They put here there in harms way = murder.
Posted on 1/24/23 at 12:49 pm to PsychTiger
So, reading all of this back-and-forth makes me wonder: The four young men all claim it was consensual, while the victim cannot defend herself for obvious reasons. They all four know there's no rebuttal, and also know if they go to lockdown they'll get made someone's bitch in two seconds. Besides, when does decency in this world exist anymore that you're not man enough to find a girl sober much less plastered.
They all four know they're guilty, but would rather be crying little bitches now and yell for mommy or NAACP.
They all four know they're guilty, but would rather be crying little bitches now and yell for mommy or NAACP.
Posted on 1/24/23 at 12:56 pm to Bandit1980
quote:I'm not sure the driver did. Ironically his honesty probably brought him a nice prison sentence.
The four young men all claim it was consensual
Posted on 1/24/23 at 1:03 pm to HodsonTiger13
quote:not necessarily. As a general rule, the concept of “felony murder“ requires that the death take place during the commission (or attempted commission) of the felony.
She was dumped on the side of the road 4x the legal limit to cover up the rape and kidnapping. Felony murder. Doesn't matter someone else ran her over.
In this case, they dumped her beside the road after committing a felony. If she died half an hour later as a result of an unconnected auto accident, the rule may not apply because the felony was no longer “in progress.“ The rape was over, and she had been released from any "kidnapping."
I do not KNOW the answer under Louisiana law, but those are the questions that any decent defense attorney will raise.
This post was edited on 1/24/23 at 1:15 pm
Posted on 1/24/23 at 1:09 pm to NC_Tigah
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I'm not sure the driver did. Ironically his honesty probably brought him a nice prison sentence.
It's possible he made a deal with the DA. I was surprised with his honesty considering the circumstance. If they all stuck together and kept their mouths shut, they very well could've gotten away with it.
Posted on 1/24/23 at 1:25 pm to Bayou Brat
Nope.. Their DNA was all over her, and video footage of them leaving with her as well.... Him coming forward saved his arse.
Posted on 1/24/23 at 1:25 pm to HodsonTiger13
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It's also manslaughter. She was dumped on the side of the road 4x the legal limit to cover up the rape and kidnapping. Felony murder. Doesn't matter someone else ran her over. They put here there in harms way = murder.
They wouldn’t get that conviction under the circumstances. Too many of the accused are only 17-18.
The 28 year old should just be summarily shot for even being there.
Posted on 1/24/23 at 1:26 pm to NC_Tigah
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I'm not sure the driver did.
From the NY Post
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Carver admitted to police that Brooks “was very unstable on her feet, was not able to keep her balance, and was unable to speak clearly without slurring her words,” the document states. Carver told investigators he witnessed Brooks and the 17-year-old boy “hugging and walking together,” saying she asked for a ride home.
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dmitted that he agreed to give her a ride because he did not want to leave her while very intoxicated and the bar was closing up,” the arrest warrant says. Carver told authorities that he sat in the driver’s seat and Lee was in the front passenger seat, while Washington and the 17-year-old were in the back along with Brooks. He said he asked Brooks for her address, “but she fell over and could not answer him.” the warrant says, “so he drove a short distance and pulled over.”
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Carver “stated he overheard his 17-year-old juvenile friend as he asked the victim five times if she wanted to have sex with him,” to which Brooks “gave verbal consent,” according to the document.
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He said the 17-year-old and Washington then had sex with Brooks before he told them, “We got to stop this, let’s go,” the document says. When asked during the police interview if he thought the woman was too impaired to give consent to sex, Carver said, “I guess.”
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Police also interviewed Washington, who said he was sad about Brooks’ death, but also admitted that he laughed while he walked behind her earlier and thought, “How y’all meet a random girl and just bring her home?” He said they later dropped Brooks off at a nearby subdivision, where she was struck around 3 a.m. by a rideshare driver on Burbank Drive near Pelican Lakes Parkway.
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Ron Haley, an attorney for two of the suspects, told WAFB that this was “absolutely not a rape. Listen, this is a tragedy, definitely not a crime.” He told the outlet that a video taken during the incident shows Brooks was coherent.
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“Can you tell that she was intoxicated, yes. To the point under the law that you say you’re in a drunken stupor, to the point that you cannot lawfully give consent or answer questions, absolutely that was not the case,” Haley told WAFB. The attorney claimed Brooks and Carver got into an argument in his car. “Based on a disagreement, she got out of the vehicle. She indicated she was getting an Uber. I want the public to know, these young men or really the driver of the vehicle and the young men that were in there, did not put her off on the side of the road,” he said.
Posted on 1/24/23 at 1:26 pm to Wednesday
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If you get shitfaced and buy a car or marry someone, the contract is nullifiable. Because. . . Wait for it . . . You didn’t consent.
If this girl got shitfaced and “agreed” to have sex with two guys while being videoed, her agreement is nullifiable, because . . . Wait for it . . . She didn’t consent. Thus, these people are charged criminally with rape.
Rape shouldn’t be a “punishment” for getting drunk.
Crazy slippery slope if drunking sex becomes an issue no matter what all "extras" were done...cause that means many men could be considered rapists under this criteria. Being tag teamed and video'd isn't to far from being "normal" in todays sexual behavior. Is the girl a rapist if the guy was drunk too, or should it be a wash?
Would be interesting if they find that the girl knew the 17yo, and met up with them there. Then see if they had had some interesting conversations that would lead him to believe she was open to it all.
Posted on 1/24/23 at 1:31 pm to DingLeeBerry
The driver’s statements are going to doom them on consent and her inebriation.
Cannot emphasize enough that having a damned-near 30 year old in the car underscores the obvious wrongdoing and removes any ability to deflect to the guys being dumb kids too.
Cannot emphasize enough that having a damned-near 30 year old in the car underscores the obvious wrongdoing and removes any ability to deflect to the guys being dumb kids too.
This post was edited on 1/24/23 at 1:32 pm
Posted on 1/24/23 at 1:36 pm to Indefatigable
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The driver’s statements are going to doom them on consent and her inebriation.
Based on the demographics of the perps it will be interesting to see what the defense attorneys for the other 3 come up with
Posted on 1/24/23 at 2:03 pm to DingLeeBerry
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“Can you tell that she was intoxicated, yes. To the point under the law that you say you’re in a drunken stupor, to the point that you cannot lawfully give consent or answer questions, absolutely that was not the case,”
Only the jury can see that, but yikes. If this description is true, I don't see what the wrongdoing is, aside from the morality of getting gangbanged in a car.
Posted on 1/24/23 at 2:08 pm to tigerlion
As long as they will defend people because of the color of their skin and not the content of their character, the judgement based on the color of their skin is justified.
How many corpses must we lay at the altar of MLK before we realize the fatal flaw in his dream?
How many corpses must we lay at the altar of MLK before we realize the fatal flaw in his dream?
Posted on 1/24/23 at 2:09 pm to DingLeeBerry
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Based on the demographics of the perps it will be interesting to see what the defense attorneys for the other 3 come up with
I would think one of the first thing is to prove that she was into black guys, to take the race thing out of the minds of the public.
If she had known the 17yo prior for her to be so open to going him, even if she was drunk
What were these under 21yos doing at the bar drunk, may even try to say they were drunk to wash out the "she was drunk" one-sided argument
If she had friends there that didn't see an issue with her talking/leaving with a group of guys that she typically be into or maybe knew
Posted on 1/24/23 at 2:09 pm to j1897
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Only the jury can see that, but yikes. If this description is true, I don't see what the wrongdoing is, aside from the morality of getting gangbanged in a car.
At least one person in the car admits to doubting her level of consent. Another person in the car was almost 30 years old. You think the jury is going to struggle to find wrongdoing?
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