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Posted on 4/15/24 at 1:35 pm to
Posted by LegalEazyE
Madison, Wisconsin
Member since Nov 2023
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Posted on 4/15/24 at 1:35 pm to
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I guess if you refuse to watch mainstream news sources it’s easier
To avoid inconvenient or troubling information that challenges your assumptions.


The irony...
Posted by Motownsix
Boise
Member since Oct 2022
1982 posts
Posted on 4/15/24 at 1:52 pm to
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er BS? Or NYC is saying that he somehow violated some regs to earn the money that he used? That seems like a hell of a stretch. But honestly don't know what kind of weak footing they're standing on this time.


As a business owner with no partners I’m still not allowed to use business funds to pay for personal expenses. Even though I’m solely responsible for profit and loss, business expenses have to be business related. If not every company would show zero profit. I wish I could pay my mortgage or get a massage with business funds. I can take a payment from the company and then use those funds any way I like, but I can’t list hookers as a business expense.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
48499 posts
Posted on 4/15/24 at 2:14 pm to
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As a business owner with no partners I’m still not allowed to use business funds to pay for personal expenses.


You can’t deduct those expenses. Has it been alleged that Trump deducted the NDA payment? And what jurisdiction does a Manhattan DA have over Trump’s tax returns?

Also, the payment happened in 2006. Why is it being brought now? Defending this clear political prosecution is pathetic.
This post was edited on 4/15/24 at 2:16 pm
Posted by LSUbest
Coastal Plain
Member since Aug 2007
11238 posts
Posted on 4/15/24 at 2:19 pm to
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Home watching CNN


You could try pulling your toenails out.

It's more entertaining and educational.
Posted by chili pup
Member since Sep 2011
2668 posts
Posted on 4/15/24 at 2:22 pm to
Yet slick Willie can get polished off in the Oval Office and that's okay.
Posted by RockoRou
SW Miss
Member since Mar 2015
641 posts
Posted on 4/15/24 at 2:41 pm to
CNN, I'd rather watch two flies phuck.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
422922 posts
Posted on 4/15/24 at 3:24 pm to
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And what jurisdiction does a Manhattan DA have over Trump’s tax returns?

It's the NY business records law and the company is incorporated in NY.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
422922 posts
Posted on 4/15/24 at 3:27 pm to
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Isn't this based on improper campaign fund usage or some other BS?

Not directly. I think that's an ancillary issue.

The issue is the wacky NY business records and, allegedly, using the company money to pay it off, hiding the payment as a legal payment to Cohen.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
422922 posts
Posted on 4/15/24 at 3:28 pm to
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Jesus Christ...

Why not just answer the question?

quote:

How does a NY DA not have standing to bring a prosecution based in NY law?
Posted by GetmorewithLes
UK Basketball Fan
Member since Jan 2011
19083 posts
Posted on 4/15/24 at 3:38 pm to
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The problem is how he was repaid the money, and why he was repaid the money in the first place.


IIRC Cohen also said Trump did not repay him. It has been awhile but he may have changed his tune.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
422922 posts
Posted on 4/15/24 at 3:44 pm to
There was one of 2 things

1. Cohen embezzled money from Trump to pay Stormy Daniels and Karen McDougal

2. There was a scheme to hide the fact the payments to various women came from Trump.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
48499 posts
Posted on 4/15/24 at 5:24 pm to
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It's the NY business records law and the company is incorporated in NY.


I thought about that. And I don’t know NY law. Do they not have a department of revenue that handles returns? And did he deduct the payment? And are misdemeanors subject to the fraud exclusion to the SOL? I don’t know the answers to this. It just seems like an extreme reaction that is clearly politically motivated.
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
11216 posts
Posted on 4/15/24 at 5:34 pm to
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stormy swore under oath she never had sex

Stormy is either guilty of perjury or there is no case for the NY prosecutor to prosecute. Period.

Even if he did pay her what would the crime be if no campaign funds were used?

No one I've ever heard of in US legal history has been the victim of more bogus cases than Donald J Trump. The question every pundit on the right should be asking the NY DA is "has anyone in your jurisdiction ever been prosecuted for this crime and if not why are you pursuing charges against Trump during a political campaign?"

Even moderate Americans are seeing this for what it is: an obvious example of using the justice system against a political opponent.
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
11216 posts
Posted on 4/15/24 at 5:35 pm to
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2. There was a scheme to hide the fact the payments to various women came from Trump.

A plan to hide a payment from the public does not in and of itself constitute a crime unless a statute is violated.
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
11216 posts
Posted on 4/15/24 at 5:37 pm to
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Also, the payment happened in 2006. Why is it being brought now? Defending this clear political prosecution is pathetic.

Thats a good point, I wonder what the statute of limitations is on something like this, we're closing in on 20 years later.
Posted by fwtex
Member since Nov 2019
1957 posts
Posted on 4/15/24 at 5:37 pm to
What your over/under on how many days the prosecution and judge cancels hearing during this trial. I am going with 8 days.

The judge seemed to show his hand that Trump had to be in court everyday. This sham is about making sure Trump cannot campaign for as long as possible. The judge is going to let the prosecution drag this trial out as long as possible. We are going to see witnesses with no meaningful information, court days called off early, and never ending deference to anything the prosecution asks.

They are already saying 8 weeks, this should be two weeks , maybe 3 max.
Posted by Csmims
Orange Beach Alabama
Member since Jan 2019
1845 posts
Posted on 4/15/24 at 5:37 pm to
Trump jay walked 30 years ago. Must be prosecuted.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
422922 posts
Posted on 4/15/24 at 5:49 pm to
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A plan to hide a payment from the public does not in and of itself constitute a crime unless a statute is violated.


The statute = the business record law

ETA: allegedly
This post was edited on 4/15/24 at 5:49 pm
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
SouthEast... you figure it out
Member since Aug 2021
25163 posts
Posted on 4/15/24 at 6:10 pm to
Jack Smith. Sorry if I got the array of fake cases against Trump mixed up.


Actually, not sorry, as they're all being directed by Soros & Obama
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
Premium Member
Member since Jan 2005
71244 posts
Posted on 4/15/24 at 6:16 pm to
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He was already a public figure before running for office


Was also a known womanizer. Even Bragg doesn't seriously believe any MAGA would say "Oh, he banged Stormy? Nevermind."

Point is to get a biased jury to ignore the facts.
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