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re: Homan Requests DOJ to Open Investigation into AOC Assisting Illegal Aliens to Avoid ICE

Posted on 2/17/25 at 5:01 pm to
Posted by alatxtgr
The Nation of Texas
Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 2/17/25 at 5:01 pm to
I think AOC needs to brush up …. As a member of Congress she ought to know this statute !!!!

Aiding and abetting illegal aliens is addressed under Title 8, U.S.C. § 1324, which makes it a crime to assist unauthorized aliens in entering or remaining in the United States, including actions like harboring or transporting them. Violators can face significant penalties, including fines and imprisonment.
Posted by Wolfwireless
Member since Aug 2024
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Posted on 2/17/25 at 5:02 pm to
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The only legal question I can think in this situation is what rights and protection does a citizen have regarding their house being searched without a warrant if it's assumed they are harboring a criminal alien.

I assume that you mean something along the lines of an American citizen protecting somebody in their home, business, or other.
The common rights. Warrant required. Unless said person is stupid enough to allow them inside the property. Visual evidence can authorize an arrest or detention.
But. Cartels have been listed as terrorist groups. If FBI is accompanying the raid, and have previously submitted suspicion of terrorists at said location they need to no warrant. Under The Patriot Act.
Posted by oklahogjr
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Posted on 2/17/25 at 5:06 pm to
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Aiding and abetting illegal aliens is addressed under Title 8, U.S.C. § 1324, which makes it a crime to assist unauthorized aliens in entering or remaining in the United States, including actions like harboring or transporting them. Violators can face significant penalties, including fines and imprisonment.

Did she harbor or transport them in this scenario?

Did she assist them with staying in some way I'm not aware of?
Posted by Rohan Gravy
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2017
20680 posts
Posted on 2/17/25 at 5:07 pm to
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She will have to bend the knee



She will have to get on her knees
Posted by prouddawg
Member since Sep 2024
7438 posts
Posted on 2/17/25 at 5:09 pm to
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If I were single, I'd offer to detain her at my house, but I don't think I could handle that voice.... or those horse teeth.


You left off cankles.
Posted by Csmims
A sandy beach in paradise
Member since Jan 2019
3222 posts
Posted on 2/17/25 at 5:11 pm to
She is so clueless. Constantly going to a gunfight barehanded
Posted by Wolfwireless
Member since Aug 2024
4783 posts
Posted on 2/17/25 at 5:15 pm to
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What's specifically fricked up on that?

It's fricked up that her info is setting people who don't understand law, for an obstruction charge
#'s 3 and 4.
To those that don't understand the process this could mean they don't have to identify themselves. At which point any officer of the law can detain them for obstruction. And hold them until their identity is confirmed.
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
107260 posts
Posted on 2/17/25 at 5:19 pm to
AOC’s defense: I’m just an actress hired to play a role!
Posted by Pax Regis
Alabama
Member since Sep 2007
14895 posts
Posted on 2/17/25 at 5:24 pm to
I’m guessing he wasn’t mesmerized by those big socialist tiddies.
Posted by TigerIron
Member since Feb 2021
3874 posts
Posted on 2/17/25 at 5:29 pm to
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Unlawful presence is overstaying a VISA which is a civil offense. Illegal Entry without ever having documentation is absolutely criminal.


Also criminal: aiding, harboring, or helping an illegal alien to avoid law enforcement.
Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 2/18/25 at 7:45 am to
Posted by Pvt Hudson
Member since Jan 2013
4718 posts
Posted on 2/18/25 at 8:16 am to
SFP - Could it not be concluded that she is planning or aiding in the commission of a crime, and has taken demonstrable steps to aid in the commission of that crime?

Would this be something akin to the people that were charged in the kidnapping scheme against the Michigan governor?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
466944 posts
Posted on 2/18/25 at 8:19 am to
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Could it not be concluded that she is planning or aiding in the commission of a crime, and has taken demonstrable steps to aid in the commission of that crime?

That depends on the facts. What specific facts support this argument?

What specific behaviors would fall under this designation?

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Would this be something akin to the people that were charged in the kidnapping scheme against the Michigan governor?

It's nothing like that, unless you have evidence she's actively hiding illegals or some direct-tactile behavior like in the Whitmer kidnapping plot.
Posted by Pvt Hudson
Member since Jan 2013
4718 posts
Posted on 2/18/25 at 8:21 am to
She created a video to help avoid being deported aimed at people violating the law -
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
466944 posts
Posted on 2/18/25 at 8:27 am to
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She created a video to help avoid being deported

As far as I can tell, the video just explained the rights of the illegals.

ICE is still bound by the US Constitution. It's a stretch to say that requiring them to adhere to the Constitution and educating illegals on their rights is "helping avoid being deported".

This post was edited on 2/18/25 at 8:28 am
Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
75360 posts
Posted on 2/18/25 at 8:29 am to
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She created a video to help avoid being deported aimed at people violating the law -

Including drawing attention to areas of workplaces where interdicting officers are not allowed, per law, according to their Powerpoint.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
466944 posts
Posted on 2/18/25 at 8:32 am to
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Including drawing attention to areas of workplaces where interdicting officers are not allowed, per law, according to their Powerpoint.


So are we now promoting having the federal government violate laws protecting us and violating our rights?

For a person who believes in concepts like the Deep State, this should seem like a scary policy stance, I reckon.

I don't personally want to aid the government in violating the law to engage in their policing authority. That sounds like authoritarianism.
Posted by Pvt Hudson
Member since Jan 2013
4718 posts
Posted on 2/18/25 at 8:36 am to
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So are we now promoting having the federal government violate laws protecting us and violating our rights?


I don’t think that was the point. The point was to show places the illegals can go to avoid law enforcement.
Posted by Stinger_1066
On a golf course
Member since Jul 2021
2899 posts
Posted on 2/18/25 at 8:50 am to
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If I were single, I'd offer to detain her at my house, but I don't think I could handle that voice.... or those horse teeth.


She would bite your dick off.
Posted by BTROleMisser
Murica'
Member since Nov 2017
9788 posts
Posted on 2/18/25 at 9:40 am to
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Yeah I'm not sure she did anything illegal here. In fact the more I read the more confident I am tom is just upset blowing smoke ...


I'm totally shocked you feel that way.
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