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re: Hobby Lobby decsion offers fodder for Democrat "War On Womenz" meme.
Posted on 6/30/14 at 4:18 pm to DCRebel
Posted on 6/30/14 at 4:18 pm to DCRebel
quote:Who do you think will appropriate funds for public option and/or single payer?
I get that.
The VA can only spend what Congress appropriates to it.
quote:Silliness. Why does every problem just need "better funding". We are out money. Look at the deficit.
People want to blame Shinseki and Obama for something that could have been prevented better funding (and therefore, better staffing) - something the VA has begged for ever since its inception.
This post was edited on 6/30/14 at 4:19 pm
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Posted on 6/30/14 at 4:20 pm to Taxing Authority
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I'm not that much of a simpleton.
Stopped reading here.
If that's how you're going to "discuss" this topic then you can just jack yourself off to the moon and back. I'm done.
I didn't insult anybody's intelligence. You took that low road.
Posted on 6/30/14 at 4:24 pm to DCRebel
Government's routine failures are commonly rewarded with more money. If only we had more money everything would be fine!
The VA is an example of government-run healthcare at work. As is Canada, where there exists some kind of fantasy that they have better healthcare than we do.
Prices in healthcare are excessive because of government intervention. I don't understand how the solution can be, "Well, government's failed so massively at controlling healthcare costs up to this point, why don't we give them total control? That'll fix it!"
The VA is an example of government-run healthcare at work. As is Canada, where there exists some kind of fantasy that they have better healthcare than we do.
Prices in healthcare are excessive because of government intervention. I don't understand how the solution can be, "Well, government's failed so massively at controlling healthcare costs up to this point, why don't we give them total control? That'll fix it!"
Posted on 6/30/14 at 4:26 pm to DCRebel
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DCRebel
Does not matter how good it is if you cannot get to it.
We have to put mechanisms in place to increase access. Your way is to increase supply (e.g. more budget, add providers, support staff, etc). My way (partially) is to reduce demand.
Bottom line, we need a co-pay system (to include DoD Tricare). It is amazing how much less you will use health care for routine matters if you have to pay for it (at least partially).
Posted on 6/30/14 at 4:28 pm to DCRebel
quote:Oh good grief. If you're going to present a single-variable argument, do you expect not be taken for oversimplifying?
I didn't insult anybody's intelligence. You took that low road.
This post was edited on 6/30/14 at 4:30 pm
Posted on 6/30/14 at 4:29 pm to DCRebel
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you can just jack yourself off to the moon and back.
Now that I have your permission.........
Posted on 6/30/14 at 4:30 pm to Vols&Shaft83
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you can just jack yourself off to the moon and back.
Now that I have your permission.........
Would be the farthest from Earth any Americans gotten during this Administration
Posted on 6/30/14 at 4:31 pm to GoBigOrange86
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Prices in healthcare are excessive because of government intervention. I don't understand how the solution can be, "Well, government's failed so massively at controlling healthcare costs up to this point, why don't we give them total control? That'll fix it!"
Have an upvote.
Posted on 6/30/14 at 4:41 pm to GumboPot
I'm enjoying the outrage and cries of the more radical leftists as they accept the reality of having government influence their health care coverage.
Just remember, this is exactly what they wanted. They wanted government deciding everything.
Just remember, this is exactly what they wanted. They wanted government deciding everything.
This post was edited on 6/30/14 at 4:42 pm
Posted on 6/30/14 at 4:56 pm to GumboPot
My god, I hate ignorant politicans that do not understand that the company and health policies are not their property or the employees property for that matter. It does not belong to them, if the company doesn't offer what the woman wants, she should not work for them and she is not being forced to do so.
Posted on 6/30/14 at 5:01 pm to DCRebel
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Ask any doctor who has worked for both the VA and the private healthcare sector. Let us know what it is that they tell you. You might be surprised.
I wasn't. Better benefits and time off. Sometimes scary follow up (or lack thereof) by support staff. And a generally less responsive system.
Posted on 6/30/14 at 5:05 pm to GumboPot
Damn, you would think that the Supreme Court just ruled that women can't buy extra coverage to supplement their employer provided coverage. Hacks.
Posted on 6/30/14 at 5:05 pm to Navytiger74
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I guess I am struggling with how this prevents a woman from going to CVS and buying condoms.
While I dislike Hobby Lobby and other companies of their ilk (Chik-a-fil comes to mind) in no way does this prevent my wife and daughters from purchasing birth control.
A lot of non-sense about nothing.
Holy shite, this may be the best post you've ever made about ObamaCare.
I agree with you.
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So male justices should recuse themselves from any case that might affect women?
Do we need an entirely separate government to make decisions that affect wimminz? One government for wimminz, one for bros?
Harry Reid is really the worst and most detestable politician there is in this country. You can feel and see the sleaze on him a mile away.
Posted on 6/30/14 at 5:08 pm to Antonio Moss
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Statutory laws, like the ACA, cannot supercede Constitutional rights
This.
I hope conservatives and liberals alike know this, understand this and respect it.
Posted on 6/30/14 at 5:10 pm to Antonio Moss
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This is all a natural progression from our collective departure from treating employment as a contractual agreement (which it should be) and treating it a social construct used to further a political agenda.
Goddamn. You're right.
Posted on 6/30/14 at 5:17 pm to Sentrius
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This is all a natural progression from our collective departure from treating employment as a contractual agreement (which it should be) and treating it a social construct used to further a political agenda
Well put
But Obama says "You're just wrong Antonio"
"by they way, are you here legally?"
Posted on 6/30/14 at 6:39 pm to DCRebel
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All the more reason for there to be a public option, right guys?!
I'm all for a public option so long as it is exclusively funded by those who participate. It can't be subsidized by tax revenue.
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