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re: HIPPA and 4th amendment - vaccine card

Posted on 5/19/21 at 8:04 am to
Posted by burger bearcat
Member since Oct 2020
10314 posts
Posted on 5/19/21 at 8:04 am to
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These arguments are getting very close to Obama's "you didn't build that" comment.


So these mega corporations are given great deals and tax cuts by governments with the incentive that they are providing a public good. Should a private toll road like the skyway in Chicago be allowed to deny service to certain vehicles?

If we are going to pick and choose how to apply all this legislation (ADA, Civil Rights, Hipaa, OSHA) then just get rid of it all. But as of now, these laws only seem to be used as clubs against people of one political ideology.
Posted by riccoar
Arkansas
Member since Mar 2006
4599 posts
Posted on 5/19/21 at 8:05 am to
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I’ve had to produce shot records for multiple daycares for my kiddos over the years.


In Arkansas, my parents had to do this and I've had to do it for my kids and even had to obtain a copy of my grandson's for my son and take to his school.

The vaccine card just has name and DOB listed on it. Then the info of the 2 shots given. That's it. I've had my shot since Dec 2020 and not been asked once about it.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
124905 posts
Posted on 5/19/21 at 8:06 am to
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HIPAA (not HIPPA) applies only to those who provide medical services, in the broad sense.


Or stores medical records or uses medical records.

A school that accidentally disclosed PHI would be subject to HIPAA penalties just like a doctor’s office would be.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
124905 posts
Posted on 5/19/21 at 8:07 am to
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these laws only seem to be used as clubs against people of one political ideology.


That’s government.
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
40535 posts
Posted on 5/19/21 at 8:09 am to
I'm just pointing it out that this board freaked over that comment not long ago and now the same argument seems to be in vogue here.

It seems like principle is also out of style. Ends justify the means. I guess maybe the posters here changed, I don't know.
This post was edited on 5/19/21 at 8:14 am
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
77709 posts
Posted on 5/19/21 at 8:12 am to
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So a business that depends on my tax dollars to build a road that leads to them
Sounds like Obama. ETA: I see I'm late with this comment.

I'm not agreeing with the vaccine card stuff, just answering op's question.
This post was edited on 5/19/21 at 8:13 am
Posted by OBReb6
Memphissippi
Member since Jul 2010
41553 posts
Posted on 5/19/21 at 8:13 am to
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HIPPA


Lol. Another dumb
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
124905 posts
Posted on 5/19/21 at 8:14 am to
I think many people are realizing two things.

1) our system is closer to crony capitalism than capitalism and crony capitalism is closer to socialism than capitalism.

2) these mega corporations are not on “our side” and there’s no use campaigning for removing government burdens on them when they’re actively involved in the destruction of traditional America
This post was edited on 5/19/21 at 8:16 am
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
77709 posts
Posted on 5/19/21 at 8:26 am to
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So can I deny someone because they are in a wheelchair? ADA says otherwise, shouldn't be any different than someone unvaccinated.
This has nothing to do with the ADA. Unvaccinated people are not disabled or a protected class. I am not agreeing with the vaccine card requirements though.
Posted by Bulldogblitz
In my house
Member since Dec 2018
28155 posts
Posted on 5/19/21 at 8:31 am to
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If Society wants to go down this parallel/dual economy route, they're not going to like the results. Excluding white males age 25-55 is not the demographic you want to cut out of your business model


They are testing the waters via other avenues, expect this one to come as well.
Posted by dafif
Member since Jan 2019
7854 posts
Posted on 5/19/21 at 8:38 am to
I am currently handling a case where an employee who was terminated filed an EEOC claim and one off the allegations was that the employer disclosed to employees that he had covid in violation of HIPAA

It’s a gray area that can be argued is not a violation

Also arguing that he was denied special accommodation to work from home.

Anyway, Hipaa applies in workforce. I’m sure if a company required a card it would have so many lawsuits. Also, FL prohibits!
Posted by FlyingTiger1955
Member since Jan 2019
5765 posts
Posted on 5/19/21 at 8:41 am to
No it's been repealed due to Covid.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
124905 posts
Posted on 5/19/21 at 8:42 am to
As long as vaccination rates in the African American demographic lag, the progressive government isn’t going to push a vaccine card requirement.

They might try to figure a way to make whites get it and exempt blacks from the requirement. We are about to that level of clown world.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
86336 posts
Posted on 5/19/21 at 8:42 am to
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A school that accidentally disclosed PHI would be subject to HIPAA penalties just like a doctor’s office would be.

Possibly. If they have a hospital or pharmacy.
Posted by jonnyanony
Member since Nov 2020
14735 posts
Posted on 5/19/21 at 8:46 am to
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A school that accidentally disclosed PHI would be subject to HIPAA penalties just like a doctor’s office would be.


Nope.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
124905 posts
Posted on 5/19/21 at 8:51 am to
You’re probably right. There’s other state and sometimes federal laws that would govern in the situation. But they have to keep health information confidential in most cases.
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
36911 posts
Posted on 5/19/21 at 8:53 am to
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HIPPA and 4th amendment - vaccine card
It's HIPAA; not HIPPA. And no - not if you provide the verification.
Posted by Hangover Haven
Metry
Member since Oct 2013
31911 posts
Posted on 5/19/21 at 8:55 am to
Where's your papers old man....?

German Voice..
This post was edited on 5/19/21 at 8:57 am
Posted by AUX3
Member since Dec 2010
3848 posts
Posted on 5/19/21 at 8:58 am to
Why do people think these vaccines are one and done? This is going to be like the flu, but you will need a shot every X years
Posted by Ancient Astronaut
Member since May 2015
37116 posts
Posted on 5/19/21 at 8:58 am to
There is no such thing as HIPPA
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