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re: HIPPA and 4th amendment - vaccine card
Posted on 5/19/21 at 7:44 am to gobuxgo5
Posted on 5/19/21 at 7:44 am to gobuxgo5
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So a business that depends on my tax dollars to build a road that leads to them, can have a completely irrational fear and deny service over 1 vaccine approved only under emergency use? Bananas
These fake arse libertarians are full of shite. They would have a completely different take if someone put up a "whites only" sign.
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Posted on 5/19/21 at 7:46 am to burger bearcat
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They would have a completely different take if someone put up a "whites only" sign.
That would be because race is a protected class and you cannot discriminate on that basis. Same as religion and gender.
There is no such additional protection for vaccinated/non-vaccinated people.
It’s not “libertarians”, and it’s not a “take” It’s the law in this country and it’s been that way for 50 years.
This post was edited on 5/19/21 at 7:47 am
Posted on 5/19/21 at 7:48 am to Roll Tide Ravens
quote:one of the problems is the 2 tier system. For instance, a bakery in Colorado must uphold your constitutional rights, but a multi billion dollar international tech conglomerate doesn’t bc “they’re a private business,” as if the bakery was not...
Do you want private persons or businesses to be subject to all of the requirements of the Constitution?
Posted on 5/19/21 at 7:48 am to Indefatigable
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How would you apply laws that specifically deal with a certain portion of the population equally?
ADA states that not only can someone not be denied service but the business must provide an accessible facility. Don't pretend that someone like Wal Mart is some little ole private ma and pa trying to get by. They get massive tax cuts and rely on infrastructure provided by tax dollars to operate.
Posted on 5/19/21 at 7:49 am to Indefatigable
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There is no such additional protection for vaccinated/non-vaccinated people.
What if my religion forbids it?
Posted on 5/19/21 at 7:53 am to burger bearcat
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What if my religion forbids it?
And most states allow religious and personal exemptions for immunizations for public schools
Posted on 5/19/21 at 7:54 am to LSUTIGER in TEXAS
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For instance, a bakery in Colorado must uphold your constitutional rights
If you’re talking about the bakery in Colorado, though, they were attacked because they “violated” whatever Colorado anti-discrimination law, not because they were being forced to meet the standards of the U.S. Constitution.
Posted on 5/19/21 at 7:55 am to burger bearcat
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What if my religion forbids it?
Schools, etc have exemptions for that. Private businesses don’t have to if they don’t want to.
Posted on 5/19/21 at 7:56 am to burger bearcat
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They get massive tax cuts and rely on infrastructure provided by tax dollars to operate.
These arguments are getting very close to Obama's "you didn't build that" comment.
Posted on 5/19/21 at 7:56 am to Roll Tide Ravens
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If you’re talking about the bakery in Colorado, though, they were attacked because they “violated” whatever Colorado anti-discrimination law, not because they were being forced to meet the standards of the U.S. Constitution.
This level of nuance is far beyond what the ideologues on here are willing to discuss.
Posted on 5/19/21 at 7:57 am to nola000
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Don't just mindlessly downvote.
Challenge me. Please. Pretty, please.
I didn’t downvote you. I’ve had to produce shot records for multiple daycares for my kiddos over the years.
It would seem it’s up to the establishment, and not against HIPAA
This post was edited on 5/19/21 at 9:40 am
Posted on 5/19/21 at 7:59 am to LSU6262
At current vaccination rates, no business is going to require proof of vaccination.
Our best way to fight this is to not get vaccinated. If you’ve already had Covid, there’s no reason to get vaccinated. Check back in a few years.
Our best way to fight this is to not get vaccinated. If you’ve already had Covid, there’s no reason to get vaccinated. Check back in a few years.
Posted on 5/19/21 at 8:00 am to Bourre
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This post was edited on 5/19/21 at 8:05 am
Posted on 5/19/21 at 8:00 am to the808bass
I blame OP for setting the standard, but friendly reminder it is HIPAA, not HIPPA. If you're one letter away from spelling HIPPO, you're going the wrong direction.
Posted on 5/19/21 at 8:01 am to LSU6262
Nope
Posted on 5/19/21 at 8:02 am to LSU6262
My employer believes they have the right to ask employees if they are vaccinated or not, without violating HIPAA. Blame the CDC for their latest bullshite guidance for creating more pressure for people to vaccinate. Meanwhile, the “Neanderthal’s” in Texas just reported zero cases mere weeks after Abbott unmasked them. It’s all a giant attempt to manipulate the sheeple.
Eta:I notice OSHA appears to be in lockstep with following the CDC guidelines, no matter how much waffling they do. Very unusual behavior for what is often a contrary agency.
Eta:I notice OSHA appears to be in lockstep with following the CDC guidelines, no matter how much waffling they do. Very unusual behavior for what is often a contrary agency.
This post was edited on 5/19/21 at 9:25 am
Posted on 5/19/21 at 8:03 am to Indefatigable
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This level of nuance is far beyond what the ideologues on here are willing to discuss.
Nuance is always code for “frick your traditional views.”
Posted on 5/19/21 at 8:04 am to Icansee4miles
For the education of the thread, HIPAA only applies to certain covered entities and their business associates, which are terms of art.
It is not a blanket protection of your health records as an individual right. In fact, HIPAA has no private right of action.
It is not a blanket protection of your health records as an individual right. In fact, HIPAA has no private right of action.
This post was edited on 5/19/21 at 8:05 am
Posted on 5/19/21 at 8:04 am to LSU6262
HIPAA (not HIPPA) applies only to those who provide medical services, in the broad sense.
Posted on 5/19/21 at 8:04 am to Teddy Ruxpin
Affordability and Accountability
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