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Posted on 6/21/20 at 9:13 pm to Cs
A good friend of mine gave up a job teaching physics and coaching soccer in an upper class suburb to come teach in our inner city minority-majority school. He had some success but he has a lot of stories similar to the OP.
2 main ones that stood out... this one girl came to class every day and was as sweet as could be, but had about a 3rd grade reading level, in Senior level Physics course. He did everything he could to pass her but she just couldn’t give her above a 50. She wasn’t going to graduate. He encouraged her to take summer school and he’s help her. His principal is told him to change her grade and pass her. He said “I will not, everybody keeps passing her along and nobody will invest in her, and we’re setting her up for failure. She needs somebody to come along, be firm, but help her.” Principal told him just pass her. He did not, principal changed her grade and she graduated.
Second story was that he had about 100 students in all his classes. He was really loose with writing referrals because most of them didn’t go anywhere. His last semester of teaching he got pulled into his AP and they asked why he only wrote referrals to black students and no white or Hispanic students. He said “I have 7 non-black students in my 5 classes among 100 students. None of them have had any issues”. He was told that if he didn’t stop racially profiling, he’d be written up.
At that point he said F it and turned in his resignation with out another job lined up.
So a Christian guy who is a successful soccer coach leaves a cush job with an easy playoff path goes to an inner city to make a difference and promptly gets told to stop making a difference.
2 main ones that stood out... this one girl came to class every day and was as sweet as could be, but had about a 3rd grade reading level, in Senior level Physics course. He did everything he could to pass her but she just couldn’t give her above a 50. She wasn’t going to graduate. He encouraged her to take summer school and he’s help her. His principal is told him to change her grade and pass her. He said “I will not, everybody keeps passing her along and nobody will invest in her, and we’re setting her up for failure. She needs somebody to come along, be firm, but help her.” Principal told him just pass her. He did not, principal changed her grade and she graduated.
Second story was that he had about 100 students in all his classes. He was really loose with writing referrals because most of them didn’t go anywhere. His last semester of teaching he got pulled into his AP and they asked why he only wrote referrals to black students and no white or Hispanic students. He said “I have 7 non-black students in my 5 classes among 100 students. None of them have had any issues”. He was told that if he didn’t stop racially profiling, he’d be written up.
At that point he said F it and turned in his resignation with out another job lined up.
So a Christian guy who is a successful soccer coach leaves a cush job with an easy playoff path goes to an inner city to make a difference and promptly gets told to stop making a difference.
This post was edited on 6/21/20 at 9:17 pm
Posted on 6/21/20 at 9:15 pm to Tchefuncte Tiger
I worked for EBRPSB, a lot of shite goes on a daily basis that never gets reported in the news.
Posted on 6/21/20 at 9:15 pm to Steadmans Cheddar
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The reddit post states that 6 guys followed him to his car with knives and threatened him, then the verbatim response from the principal was to claim that’s their culture and to give an extra credit assignment. Everyone is just swallowing this line with no second guesses? That doesn’t seem like an exaggeration to anyone?
This is fishy to me too. Knives are a hispanic thing. Blacks do guns.
Posted on 6/21/20 at 9:17 pm to Ollieoxenfree99
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Blacks do guns.
but they aren't allowed on school grounds
Posted on 6/21/20 at 9:20 pm to Pooturd
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What can be done about it?
Teachers open carrying.
Posted on 6/21/20 at 9:21 pm to Steadmans Cheddar
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The reddit post states that 6 guys followed him to his car with knives and threatened him, then the verbatim response from the principal was to claim that’s their culture and to give an extra credit assignment. Everyone is just swallowing this line with no second guesses? That doesn’t seem like an exaggeration to anyone?
What are you doing. The entire experience shared is not an exaggeration, and you know it. It’s not a secret this is the common illustration of inner city schools.
Posted on 6/21/20 at 9:24 pm to Cs
Wow. I would have quit after the first incident
Posted on 6/21/20 at 9:24 pm to Cs
Wish they would just have a daycare in the gym to let the handful of kids that will amount to anything actually learn. The counselor telling the kid to go to Grambling instead of Stanford should lose whatever license they have also.
Posted on 6/21/20 at 9:25 pm to 3nOut
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So a Christian guy who is a successful soccer coach leaves a cush job with an easy playoff path goes to an inner city to make a difference and promptly gets told to stop making a difference.
My dad went back to school in his late 50s to become a teacher/baseball coach, it had been a dream of his for awhile. He lasted about 2 years teaching 7th and 8th grade social studies at a low-income school (Title 1 I think it's called) and told many similar stories. 95% black student body, the few Hispanic* and white students he did have were great and hardly ever caused issues. The black kids stayed in trouble constantly, he caught a couple with guns, weed, and condoms - keep in mind these are middle schoolers. His principal basically repeated the whole, "you have to understand, this is just how it is, this is the culture, we just gotta keep them safe/fed for 8 hours per day." Any time he'd discipline one of the kids, mom (never dad) would show up and raise hell and ultimately my dad would be left powerless. Finally he got fed up, quit, and retired down to Florida
*He told me this great story about a "Meet the Teacher" event they had at the school one night where the kids and their parents were supposed to come in and introduce themselves yadda yadda yadda. One of his Hispanic kids and his parents showed up, the mom spoke fluent English but the dad was just so-so. The dad bummed a ride from work in his fricking KFC uniform, shook my dad's hand and said in broken English how thankful he was for my dad helping little Julio (or whatever) learn about American history. The dad gave my dad a bunch of KFC coupons and was all excited about some special sandwich they were bringing back next week. The guy just took a ton of pride in his (by all accounts, mediocre) job and life in America, he was proud of this nation and thankful for the school where his son was getting an education. I mean, can you imagine working all day at KFC in the heat, getting yelled at by customers in a language you barely understand, for shite pay and STILL showing up to your kid's school to meet the teacher and express your gratitude? That right there is what's missing from the black community; it's not entirely absent, but something like 70% of black kids are born to unwed mothers...IN frickING SANE.
Posted on 6/21/20 at 9:27 pm to Cs
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It's just their culture. You have to respect that.
And herein lies the biggest problem of all. That culture needs to be burned to the fricking ground and completely rebuilt. Until that happens, nothing will ever change for the black community.
Posted on 6/21/20 at 9:29 pm to cwill
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Could a culture and a people be severely damaged by a few hundred years and several generations of utter oppression and deprivation?
Aren’t a lot of immigrants that come here and succeed from places that CURRENTLY have those issues lmao. Gtfo
Posted on 6/21/20 at 9:29 pm to SD Tider
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I’ve known several African immigrants from college and also professionally. They are almost universally hard-working, humble, and intelligent professionals who value their families more than anything. They also put in way more hours studying than me or any of my friends ever did because education is that serious to them- it means the difference between a good life in America or whatever life you can scratch out in Africa.
African immigrants know what actual oppression looks like.
Posted on 6/21/20 at 9:32 pm to LordSaintly
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Look, I love Grambling State University because it allowed close family members to get a college education during a time where they couldn't legally go to a school like LSU.
That said, how frickING DARE a counselor tell a student to forgo a world class education at Stanford for the sake of Grambling in the year 2020.
That person should have been fired on the spot.
When you value the group more than the individual, this is the kind of thing that happens.
The Democratic party has been telling blacks for decades that being black is the absolute most important aspect in their life. No other race values their race at that level.
The kids prospects are worth less than the HBCU that would benefit from that kid.
Posted on 6/21/20 at 9:49 pm to moneyg
I taught at an elementary school with a similar population and this is pretty spot on. The school had a larger budget than any other school I've worked at and provided many extra services and programs to help bridge the gaps. Unfortunately, due to behavior issues and a complete lack of parental support most days were a shite show. We had to stop allowing parents to chaperone field trips because many behaved worse than the children. Every Friday the students were sent home with backpack full of food and 90% of them would throw everything out but the juice boxes. Many parents would approach me about how to get their child qualified for special education. I was too naive at the time to figure out why these parents were so eager for their child to be labeled, but later learned that they would get social security benefits once their child qualified. I worked with great people who really wanted to make a difference, but you can't help people who don't want to be helped.
This post was edited on 6/21/20 at 9:50 pm
Posted on 6/21/20 at 9:56 pm to SCLibertarian
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SCLibertarian
I have spoken with co workers and former classmates who are African and they give multiple perspectives.
The biggest thing most Americans don't realize is that typically the Africans who migrate to the US are the top tier of their respective countries. We are not getting the poorest/least educated Africans at our universities.
That being said, I do agree that the quality of life in their countries is subpar to that of Americans. So they do learn to be appreciative if the opportunity to learn in this country.
Where we fundamentally disagree is that all American blacks are lazy. That simply isn't the case. There are plenty of Black people who do well for themselves graduating from LSU and multiple other predominantly white universities.
Posted on 6/21/20 at 9:57 pm to Fat Bastard
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When people know they will be propped up with free housing, free food and free everything they make no effort.
And don’t forget they use the occasional riots to get that new tv and Gucci purse
Posted on 6/21/20 at 9:59 pm to NE4501
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taught at an elementary school with a similar population and this is pretty spot on. The school had a larger budget than any other school I've worked at and provided many extra services and programs to help bridge the gaps. Unfortunately, due to behavior issues and a complete lack of parental support most days were a shite show. We had to stop allowing parents to chaperone field trips because many behaved worse than the children. Every Friday the students were sent home with backpack full of food and 90% of them would throw everything out but the juice boxes. Many parents would approach me about how to get their child qualified for special education. I was too naive at the time to figure out why these parents were so eager for their child to be labeled, but later learned that they would get social security benefits once their child qualified. I worked with great people who really wanted to make a difference, but you can't help people who don't want to be helped.
The issue is that the parents are usually CHILDREN THEMSELVES. Your probably dealing with mostly young mother's with no father in the picture. Even if the father is there he isn't really in the child's life.
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