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re: Highly upvoted red pill on reddit on black "culture". Now the thread is locked.

Posted on 6/21/20 at 8:29 pm to
Posted by tiggerthetooth
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Posted on 6/21/20 at 8:29 pm to
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Everyone is just swallowing this line with no second guesses? That doesn’t seem like an exaggeration to anyone?




Uhh yeah...you really need to pay attention to what goes on in these inner city school districts. Here's a story from awhile back that makes this seem like child's play, and this story is 100% true.


What really happened at the school where every kid got into college?


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How did all these students graduate from high school?

"You saw kids walking across the stage, who, they're nice young people, but they don't deserve to be walking across the stage," Butcher says.




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An investigation by WAMU and NPR has found that Ballou High School's administration graduated dozens of students despite high rates of unexcused absences. We reviewed hundreds of pages of Ballou's attendance records, class rosters and emails after a district employee shared the private documents. Half of the graduates missed more than three months of school last year, unexcused. One in five students was absent more than present — missing more than 90 days of school.




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Teachers say when many of these students did attend school, they struggled academically, often needing intense remediation.

"I've never seen kids in the 12th grade that couldn't read and write," says Butcher about his two decades teaching in low-performing schools from New York City to Florida. But he saw this at Ballou, and it wasn't just one or two students.



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An internal email obtained by WAMU and NPR from April shows two months before graduation, only 57 students were on track to graduate, with dozens of students missing graduation or community service requirements or failing classes needed to graduate. In June, 164 students received diplomas.

"It was smoke and mirrors. That is what it was," says Butcher.
This post was edited on 6/21/20 at 8:30 pm
Posted by LordSaintly
Member since Dec 2005
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Posted on 6/21/20 at 8:32 pm to
Students regularly graduate from high school while reading at a 4th grade level.

The low expectations are criminal.
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
53760 posts
Posted on 6/21/20 at 8:32 pm to
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Could a culture and a people be severely damaged by a few hundred years and several generations of utter oppression and deprivation?


Why do some people want to continuously make excuses for the failure of Black Americans to succeed in a country where immigrants excel?

This perpetual crutch of victimhood is destroying our black brothers and sisters.
Posted by MickeyLikesDags21
Member since Apr 2019
6641 posts
Posted on 6/21/20 at 8:35 pm to
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education is racist

these racist science teachers are trying to teach these kids how to measure in milllileters and celsius when these children of color understand ounces and grams just fine


Posted by Steadmans Cheddar
Member since Dec 2019
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Posted on 6/21/20 at 8:36 pm to
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Uhh yeah...you really need to pay attention to what goes on in these inner city school districts.


Your quotes from that article are about absenteeism and lack of substantive knowledge base. It’s a leap to go from students with poor attendance to school administration explicitly rewarding armed assault.

808bass at least offered real life anecdotal support. Even his however, there’s a difference between a lack of expulsion and affirmative praise for armed assault.

If everyone else doesn’t hesitate to believe this, I’ll drop it and move on.
Posted by tiggerthetooth
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Posted on 6/21/20 at 8:42 pm to
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It’s a leap to go from students with poor attendance to school administration explicitly rewarding armed assault.



There was a man that pushed over a 92 year old woman the other day with over 100 run ins with the police, some of which included offenses like assault. Is it really that hard to believe? Why would he make up that part of the story?


There are a lot of high schools that push problem kids out via graduation because they dont want the burden of a hopeless cause. This was probably one of those cases. Better they're out of the system and dealt with by someone else than adding to the new problems coming in.

Posted by Ollieoxenfree99
Member since Aug 2018
7748 posts
Posted on 6/21/20 at 8:44 pm to
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 I could have told you that from my own experience going to school in Lafourche parish. 


Hell, I could have told you that from my experiences in high school, 25 years ago.

Same shite, different year.
Posted by Pecker
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Posted on 6/21/20 at 8:44 pm to


Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 6/21/20 at 8:48 pm to
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Yes.

And 100 years from now, they’ll be in the same place they are today unless they participate in society.


Sure, fully free, no longer oppressed by bullshite laws and no coddling...we’re about 40 years into fully free, but now old grievances are being exploited by left neo-marxists and we have clowns on the other side playing into the racialists’ hands, too. The garbage people are fricking us up.
Posted by TygerTyger
Houston
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 6/21/20 at 8:50 pm to
This movie would never be made today, and reflects the exact environment described in the OP.

Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
54755 posts
Posted on 6/21/20 at 8:51 pm to
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Would you have rather lived in the United States the past 100 years or Uganda? How about the DRC? Why is it that African immigrants have lesser problems adjusting to life here when their governments were objectively more oppressive than ours?


You didn’t answer my question.
Posted by ApexTiger
cary nc
Member since Oct 2003
56171 posts
Posted on 6/21/20 at 8:52 pm to
As I posted recently

Its systemic self oppression
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134141 posts
Posted on 6/21/20 at 8:54 pm to
"It's their culture." Then they'll turn around and blame "systemic racism" for why they can't get ahead. frick that noise.

The part about the counselor pressuring a kid to go to Grambling instead of Stanford makes me SICK.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
26930 posts
Posted on 6/21/20 at 8:54 pm to
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Sure, fully free, no longer oppressed by bullshite laws and no coddling...we’re about 40 years into fully free, but now old grievances are being exploited by left neo-marxists and we have clowns on the other side playing into the racialists’ hands, too. The garbage people are fricking us up.



I notice you didn’t assign any responsibility to one particular group.
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 6/21/20 at 8:55 pm to
There is still coddling and it’s getting even worse.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134141 posts
Posted on 6/21/20 at 8:57 pm to
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Hell, I could have told you that from my experiences in high school, 25 years ago.

Same shite, different year.


I'm so fricking glad I was homeschooled. So many of my cousins ended up in the exact kind of schools that teacher describes. Now they're the "woke" ones who decry systemic oppression. Such bullshite.
Posted by Ricardo
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 6/21/20 at 8:57 pm to
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Posted by SCLibertarian
Conway, South Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
40957 posts
Posted on 6/21/20 at 9:05 pm to
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You didn’t answer my question.

I kind of did. Your assertion was that years of oppression somehow was responsible for the current social and political state of African Americans. If your theory is correct, that systemic oppression essentially inhibits the evolution of a group of people, why then are African immigrants more successful than their American counterparts?

Despite our history of slavery and Jim Crow, it doesn't compare with what happened in the Belgian Congo. Was any Jim Crow politician a bigger tyrant than Idi Amin? Has there ever been a level of genocide here that there was in Rwanda?

If systemic racism or oppression is what holds down American blacks, why are Africans, who have arguably faced more of it in their lives and would arguably face it here due to the color of their skin, more successful?
This post was edited on 6/21/20 at 9:19 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
466158 posts
Posted on 6/21/20 at 9:07 pm to
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That said, how frickING DARE a counselor tell a student to forgo a world class education at Stanford for the sake of Grambling in the year 2020.

That person should have been fired on the spot.


when i read that i thought it was the first sign of pure bullshite
Posted by lsu1919
Member since May 2017
3244 posts
Posted on 6/21/20 at 9:08 pm to
Taught 3 years and 3 different high schools w 99% black populations. Was employed by one school but did tech so they bussed in other schools. So got some different experiences with different schools. But not really. It was all the same. A lot of what this guy said is so true. They want to teachers to accept that they are loud and disrespectful and disruptive instead of expecting them to, you know, learn.

My little story is this. Two kids about to fight in the lunch room. I’m a pretty big guy so I get between them and pick one up and throw him out the door that locks and he can’t get back in. He stands at the window saying all the things you can imagine. Later, the AP calls me in with the kid and says I embarrassed him and I need to apologize. Didn’t happen. That was a Thursday or a Friday. That night at the football game the kid got caught with a gun and was arrested and expelled. I always assume he was looking for me.

I found a new job quickly after that. I know some great teachers that bend over backwards for a lot of kids but I just couldn’t do it anymore. Couldn’t fight through the bs to help the ones that needed it.
This post was edited on 6/21/20 at 9:10 pm
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