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re: He’s going to pardon all of them

Posted on 12/1/24 at 8:24 pm to
Posted by BigPerm30
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 12/1/24 at 8:24 pm to
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How can a pardon be issued for crimes that have never been tried in a court of law?


You can’t

fricking X legal scholars making shite up
Posted by MintBerry Crunch
Member since Nov 2010
5496 posts
Posted on 12/1/24 at 8:24 pm to
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If Joe issues pardons for people who have never been arrested or charged, then that means that he knew that they'd committed crimes, possibly making him a co-conspirator.


Some of you people are just fricking dumb.
Posted by MintBerry Crunch
Member since Nov 2010
5496 posts
Posted on 12/1/24 at 8:25 pm to
You certainly can pardon anyone for anything, whether tried or not.
Posted by Epaminondas
The Boot
Member since Jul 2020
5526 posts
Posted on 12/1/24 at 8:26 pm to
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How can a pardon be issued for crimes that have never been tried in a court of law?
Carter pardoned draft dodgers that had never even been indicted.

Ford pardoned Nixon for any federal offenses he may have committed during his presidency.
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
5299 posts
Posted on 12/1/24 at 8:26 pm to
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Get ready


Holy Cats! I hadn't thought about that...but the Leftist hive man is definitely at work.

The easy fix is to prosecute Fauci, et al under STATE crimes over which presidential pardons have no effect.
Posted by BigPerm30
Member since Aug 2011
29506 posts
Posted on 12/1/24 at 8:26 pm to
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You certainly can pardon anyone for anything, whether tried or not.


Under what grounds? I’m assuming it doesn’t matter if it’s legal or constitutional. They do whatever the frick they want anyway. It’s (D)ifferent.
Posted by captainFid
Vestavia, AL
Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 12/1/24 at 8:27 pm to
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If this is something the administration does, Biden didn't come up with it, he is just doing what the handlers tell him. They are the people scared of being prosecuted.

And if it happens, I hope Trump goes after every one of those bastards. First for what they've done to him (looking at Biden's admin meeting w/ Fani Willis). But even worse is how they've used ordinary people - patriots who have been incarcerated for years, often without trial. Now they try to dangle the carrot.

Trump should go after the Capital Hill law enforcement, federal prosecutors and judges. ALL OF THEM.
Posted by Kattail
Member since Aug 2020
3975 posts
Posted on 12/1/24 at 9:10 pm to
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Trump really should pardon every single J6er, then launch an investigation into Ashley Babbitt’s murder.


And have a real investigation into J6
Posted by Goforit
Member since Apr 2019
7460 posts
Posted on 12/1/24 at 9:28 pm to
SCOTUS may take a dim view of issuing open-ended pardons. It remains to be seen.
Posted by BamaScoop
Panama City Beach, Florida
Member since May 2007
55797 posts
Posted on 12/1/24 at 9:31 pm to
You can’t pardon people for crimes they may have committed.
Posted by Tantal
Member since Sep 2012
17749 posts
Posted on 12/1/24 at 9:34 pm to
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Some of you people are just fricking dumb.

How so? Let's say that Joe ordered someone (let's say Mayorkas) to do something illegal. He's never been investigated, arrested, or charged with any crime, yet Joe issues a pardon for the crime that Joe ordered him to commit. Does that not make Joe a co-conspirator in the crime?
This post was edited on 12/2/24 at 7:24 am
Posted by Jellyham
Member since Dec 2019
444 posts
Posted on 12/2/24 at 12:03 am to
What reason would he have for pardoning anyone in his political party? They threw the old man out like he was garbage for the most unelectable person in history. In the end it was his Son. I doubt anyone else in DC is getting a pardon before a crime is even named. I think secretly Biden wouldn’t mind seeing some of the establishment suffer for being treated the way he was. However I’m aware that he would probably sign anything in front of him no matter what it said and no matter who wrote it.
This post was edited on 12/2/24 at 12:05 am
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
117998 posts
Posted on 12/2/24 at 3:59 am to
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Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
117998 posts
Posted on 12/2/24 at 4:03 am to
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The easy fix is to prosecute Fauci, et al under STATE crimes over which presidential pardons have no effect.


Fauci just won’t go to any red state then. I think he’s explicitly avoided Florida in recent years because DeSantis would arrest him on the fricking spot if he ever had the balls to step foot in his state.
Posted by GeauxtigersMs36
The coast
Member since Jan 2018
11470 posts
Posted on 12/2/24 at 6:11 am to
This only tells the country they committed crimes.
Posted by LSUnation78
Northshore
Member since Aug 2012
13526 posts
Posted on 12/2/24 at 6:15 am to
Nothing that says those who are pardoned and unable to face justice of the courts cant have their case files made public.
This post was edited on 12/2/24 at 6:16 am
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
8222 posts
Posted on 12/2/24 at 7:18 am to
That CNN anchor is an idiot.

People forget, the DOJ basically said while Biden was POTUS that he was guilty of all sorts of stuff, but that they weren't going to prosecute because he was senile (but he was fit to still be POTUS).

If Biden's not careful, he's going to find himself up to his own neck in investigations once Trump is sworn in.

He'd best leave it at Hunter.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
43895 posts
Posted on 12/2/24 at 7:24 am to
So we get to just blanket pre pardon people who haven’t been charged with a crime, thereby immunizing them for any prosecution whatsoever?
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
46281 posts
Posted on 12/2/24 at 7:41 am to
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How can a pardon be issued for crimes that have never been tried in a court of law?


Ford started this bullshite when he pardoned Nixon.
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
5299 posts
Posted on 12/2/24 at 8:16 am to
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Fauci just won’t go to any red state then.


Thankfully, the Constitution covers that explicitly. States MUST comply with rendition (extradition) requests from other states.

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