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Posted on 8/17/14 at 11:39 pm to
Posted by REG861
Ocelot, Iowa
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Posted on 8/17/14 at 11:39 pm to
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I can't believe anyone is taking up for Perry. That guy is a fricking scumbag.


Because it sets a dangerous precedent where a governor can be criminally charged for exercising his lawful veto power
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 8/17/14 at 11:41 pm to
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I can't believe anyone is taking up for Perry. That guy is a fricking scumbag.


I'm not.

The DA is a POS however. Watch the vid.
Posted by SpidermanTUba
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Posted on 8/17/14 at 11:42 pm to
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It's time for you to put on your hat and go sit in the back of the classroom while the adults discuss the issues of the day --



Can you please show me where in Texas law there is an exception to 36.03 if the public servant was convicted of a DWI?

Or you can behave like what you think is an adult and insult my intelligence instead.


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Sec. 36.03. COERCION OF PUBLIC SERVANT OR VOTER. (a) A person commits an offense if by means of coercion he:

(1) influences or attempts to influence a public servant in a specific exercise of his official power or a specific performance of his official duty or influences or attempts to influence a public servant to violate the public servant's known legal duty; or

(2) influences or attempts to influence a voter not to vote or to vote in a particular manner.

(b) An offense under this section is a Class A misdemeanor unless the coercion is a threat to commit a felony, in which event it is a felony of the third degree.

(c) It is an exception to the application of Subsection (a)(1) of this section that the person who influences or attempts to influence the public servant is a member of the governing body of a governmental entity, and that the action that influences or attempts to influence the public servant is an official action taken by the member of the governing body. For the purposes of this subsection, the term "official action" includes deliberations by the governing body of a governmental entity.
Posted by SpidermanTUba
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Posted on 8/17/14 at 11:45 pm to
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The DA is a POS however. Watch the vid.



The DA has already been convicted and served her time. I fail to see the relevance.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 8/17/14 at 11:45 pm to
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Sec. 36.03. COERCION OF PUBLIC SERVANT


Describes the DA's actions.
Posted by SpidermanTUba
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Posted on 8/17/14 at 11:46 pm to
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Because it sets a dangerous precedent where a governor can be criminally charged for exercising his lawful veto power


It is not lawful in Texas to exercise veto power (or any other power) for the purpose of coercing an elected official in the execution of her duties. See 36.03.

Posted by REG861
Ocelot, Iowa
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 8/17/14 at 11:46 pm to
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1) influences or attempts to influence a public servant in a specific exercise of his official power or a specific performance of his official duty or influences or attempts to influence a public servant to violate the public servant's known legal duty; or


I fail to see how threatening a veto (which every governor invariably does) equates to this. Unless you are a partisan hack, that is. Let's go ahead and round up every governor since clearly all their vetoes, real and contemplated, were attempts to influence a public servant.
Posted by SpidermanTUba
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Posted on 8/17/14 at 11:47 pm to
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Describes the DA's actions.



Really? So has the DA said the charges will be dropped if Perry steps down? Or are you just lying?
Posted by MMauler
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Posted on 8/17/14 at 11:47 pm to
You really cannot be so f*cking stupid as to believe that Perry's actions have anyf*ckingthing to do with that statute.

Seriously, you are one f*cked-in-the-head moron.
Posted by REG861
Ocelot, Iowa
Member since Oct 2011
38159 posts
Posted on 8/17/14 at 11:48 pm to
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It is not lawful in Texas to exercise veto power (or any other power) for the purpose of coercing an elected official in the execution of her duties


That's funny, it said absolutely nothing about the veto power 36.03, so I fail to see where your claim that it's illegal has its basis.
Posted by Sentrius
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Posted on 8/17/14 at 11:50 pm to
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Does Perry think that GWB was unfit to be in office since he had a DUI?


Considering that bush was nowhere even close to being a politician in the 1970's and this DA committed a crime while being in office, I don't understand you equating this to bush.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299017 posts
Posted on 8/17/14 at 11:51 pm to
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Really? So has the DA said the charges will be dropped if Perry steps down? Or are you just lying?


You're really a socially awkward person. I find it difficult you could take that out of context, but you did. I think your head is so far up "big gov" arse that you can't see things the overwhelming majority of people can see


The only thing I stated is the DA tried to coerce a public servant, I didn't insinuate anything else.
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 8/17/14 at 11:51 pm to
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Does Perry think that GWB was unfit to be in office since he had a DUI?


It's not that she got the DUI it's that she pulled the "do you know who I am card" more than once.
Posted by REG861
Ocelot, Iowa
Member since Oct 2011
38159 posts
Posted on 8/17/14 at 11:51 pm to
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Really? So has the DA said the charges will be dropped if Perry steps down? Or are you just lying?



No, since you're too dense to understand, I'll explain it. The unfathomably drunk DA threatened all the public servants in the various videos posted (and therefore, ignored by you) that they would suffer consequences for arresting her and attempted to coerce them into dereliction of their duties based on her position of power. Did you understand that? Was that too complex? Should I draw a diagram?
This post was edited on 8/17/14 at 11:52 pm
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 8/17/14 at 11:53 pm to
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I can't believe anyone is taking up for Perry. That guy is a fricking scumbag.

Read about how he knowingly sent an innocent man to the death penalty: LINK


What does that have to do with this case? Nobody believes perry is a good man of morals in this thread. We're just calling it like we see it and that's a hack going way out of her bounds and abusing her power in retribution to an exercise of a constitutional and legal right.
This post was edited on 8/17/14 at 11:54 pm
Posted by SpidermanTUba
my house
Member since May 2004
36132 posts
Posted on 8/17/14 at 11:53 pm to
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1) influences or attempts to influence a public servant in a specific exercise of his official power or a specific performance of his official duty or influences or attempts to influence a public servant to violate the public servant's known legal duty; or



I fail to see how threatening a veto (which every governor invariably does) equates to this.



He threatened to veto unless she resigned her elected position. That's attempting to influence a public servant in a specific exercise of his official power ( all of her power in this case).
This post was edited on 8/17/14 at 11:54 pm
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299017 posts
Posted on 8/17/14 at 11:54 pm to
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No, since you're too dense to understand, I'll explain it


He really is.
Posted by SpidermanTUba
my house
Member since May 2004
36132 posts
Posted on 8/17/14 at 11:54 pm to
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That's funny, it said absolutely nothing about the veto power 36.03,


It says absolutely nothing about any specific act of coercion at all - it covers any form of coercion.
Posted by SpidermanTUba
my house
Member since May 2004
36132 posts
Posted on 8/17/14 at 11:56 pm to
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It's not that she got the DUI it's that she pulled the "do you know who I am card" more than once.


And if it had been Rick Perry in the drunk tank instead he would have said "Do you know who I am? I'll yank every cent of state funding from your department unless you release me".

Do you think Lehmberg would have fared better if she had that card to pull?
This post was edited on 8/17/14 at 11:57 pm
Posted by REG861
Ocelot, Iowa
Member since Oct 2011
38159 posts
Posted on 8/17/14 at 11:57 pm to
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It says absolutely nothing about any specific act of coercion at all - it covers any form of coercion.


I guess we're stuck in a Catch-22 when the 'act of coercion' is a veto, which is statutorily within the Governor's jurisdiction. Are we going to start rounding up and arresting governors based off of what we subjectively determine to be the motivation of their vetoes?
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