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re: Here's the quote from the Virginia governor's press conference on their new abortion bill
Posted on 1/30/19 at 5:34 pm to AggieHank86
Posted on 1/30/19 at 5:34 pm to AggieHank86
Who gives a frick if it’s deformed? It’s a living mother fricking human being. If those parents don’t want a “deformed” baby send them to my house, I’ll gladly care for them. For the love of everything Holy this is the sickest shite I’ve ever heard. Y’all are downright fricking sick
Who dictates what “severely deformed” is? Would there be a judge in the delivery room making a legal decision on if the baby fits the legal discription of “severely deformed”? Jesus H Christ man this is the most evil thing I’ve heard in a long time. I don’t care if it was voted down. A fricking Governor of one of our oldest states is pushing for this. I just can’t imagine our country has voted on leaders who think this way.
Who dictates what “severely deformed” is? Would there be a judge in the delivery room making a legal decision on if the baby fits the legal discription of “severely deformed”? Jesus H Christ man this is the most evil thing I’ve heard in a long time. I don’t care if it was voted down. A fricking Governor of one of our oldest states is pushing for this. I just can’t imagine our country has voted on leaders who think this way.
This post was edited on 1/30/19 at 5:39 pm
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Posted on 1/30/19 at 5:35 pm to mahdragonz
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Let's be clear ..you think the government should decide over the family.
So I have a child who is born with no kidneys. That baby is born and technically could be somewhat kept alive.
My wife and I want only comfort care for the baby to pass. You think the hospital and government should over rule our beliefs and force to keep the baby alive by machines.
Go on
Let's be clear: that's not what is being discussed, and is not any different from what already happens now.
This post was edited on 1/30/19 at 5:36 pm
Posted on 1/30/19 at 5:36 pm to L.A.
quote:
and then a discussion would ensue between the physicians and the mother," Northam said, alluding to the physician and mother discussing whether the born infant should live or die.
Dear God rescue us. We've known all along that these people think this way. I just never thought they'd not only admit it aloud to the general public but actually revel in their own inhumanity.
This post was edited on 1/30/19 at 5:37 pm
Posted on 1/30/19 at 5:37 pm to L.A.
Insanity has come over the planet
Posted on 1/30/19 at 5:38 pm to imjustafatkid
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you think the government should decide over the family.
I don't feel like finding muhdragqueen's post but uh, yes the government decides that people should live all the time, over the whims of people who think otherwise aka murderers.
Posted on 1/30/19 at 5:39 pm to L.A.
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quote: "If a mother is in labor, I can tell you exactly what would happen. The infant would be delivered. The infant would be kept comfortable. The infant would be resuscitated if that’s what the mother and the family desired, and then a discussion would ensue between the physicians and the mother," Northam said, alluding to the physician and mother discussing whether the born infant should live or die. Virginia Gov. Ralph Northam
This is truly frightening like something you would only think might come about on a twisted Saw movie— but even Saw never went that low to involve infants, unless I am forgetting— the plots were always involving adults deciding if other adults would get mutilated, torn to pieces, cut in two etc— not even that sedistic show would have dared involve children much less babies just born.
Another thing that makes my blood boil about this is the same people pushing this legislation would be the same people who would throw a dog owner in jail for ten years in levenworth if they did something this heinous to their pregnant female dog.
The owner Would say “your honor, you don’t understand, as the owners of the dog we made a tough decision, yes the puppies were perfectly healthy and about to be born that day— but it had to be done it was better for everyone, and also don’t worry— the good news is we got to those puppies before they could be born that same morning. Yes we killed them very quickly before they came out.”
Just think about how that sounds for a minute and that’s basiclly what the state wants to decide about the legality of such a thing on HUMANS in Virginia.
This post was edited on 1/30/19 at 5:54 pm
Posted on 1/30/19 at 5:40 pm to Sentrius
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What the mother and the family want is irrelevant and should be disregarded when it comes to an infant that is still alive.
Correct
That would be murder and medical malpractice by any definition
Posted on 1/30/19 at 5:40 pm to Y.A. Tittle
quote:In most jurisdictions, something quite similar to what the governor described, though I am not familiar with the specifics of Virginia law.
So, this is NOW what will occur because of this law?quote:Tell us what was happening before.
"If a mother is in labor, I can tell you exactly what would happen. The infant would be delivered. The infant would be kept comfortable. The infant would be resuscitated if that’s what the mother and the family desired, and then a discussion would ensue between the physicians and the mother," Northam said, alluding to the physician and mother discussing whether the born infant should live or die.
Again, the bill in question did not even ADDRESS this scenario. The governor was addressing a completely different issue than 3rd trimester abortion.
Lots of States seem to be concerned that the anticipated new SCOTUS will change the law, and they are enacting prophylactic legislation to preserve the status quo in the face of new SCOTUS rulings.
Posted on 1/30/19 at 5:42 pm to AggieHank86
quote:Either you do not understand Roe, or you don't understand how it might be changed.
Lots of States seem to be concerned that the anticipated new SCOTUS will change the law, and they are enacting prophylactic legislation to preserve the status quo in the face of new SCOTUS rulings.
This post was edited on 1/30/19 at 5:45 pm
Posted on 1/30/19 at 5:42 pm to AggieHank86
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Lots of States seem to be concerned that the anticipated new SCOTUS will change the law, and they are enacting prophylactic legislation to preserve the status quo in the face of new SCOTUS rulings
It’s a big business after all, gotta protect the industry
Posted on 1/30/19 at 5:43 pm to AggieHank86
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Keep in mind that this was NOT his bill,
Writers and defenders of bills like this or their ilk on the left Planned Parenthood...always take the extreme cases as their talking points...
When in reality these bills are usually broadly written.
This is the same "health of the mother" bullshite we've been hearing about for years.
"Late term abortions are only performed because of the health of the mother."
It's nonsense and we know the left just lies repeatedly when introducing legislation.
"Health of the mother" = teenage girl realizes she should've used a Condom.
Posted on 1/30/19 at 5:43 pm to rickyh
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So I have a child who is born with no kidneys. That baby is born and technically could be somewhat kept alive.
In what primitive decade would this be discovered after birth?
Posted on 1/30/19 at 5:44 pm to AggieHank86
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Lots of States seem to be concerned that the anticipated new SCOTUS will change the law, and they are enacting prophylactic legislation to preserve the status quo in the face of new SCOTUS rulings.
Lay out for us a potential SCOTUS ruling for which these new laws will preserve the abortion status quo wants of these particular states through the implementation of this new legislation.
Posted on 1/30/19 at 5:44 pm to Dawgfanman
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It’s a big business after all, gotta protect the industry
Yeah, America doesn't build cars anymore or make clothes.
America's big business is War and killing babies.
The right has the war industry and the left has the baby killing industry.
This post was edited on 1/30/19 at 5:45 pm
Posted on 1/30/19 at 5:45 pm to NC_Tigah
quote:Lots of people do not understand Roe, because it is a stupid, convoluted and poorly-reasoned decision.
Either you do not understand Roe, or (you) don't understand how it might be changed.
Which is WHY state legislators (most of whom are NOT Constitutional scholars) are rushing to enact legislation to preserve Roe rights ... as they understand them.
Posted on 1/30/19 at 5:46 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
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The right has the war industry and the left has the baby killing industry.
Obama bombed 8 different sovereign nations in one calendar year, the left loves war as much as anyone
This post was edited on 1/30/19 at 5:47 pm
Posted on 1/30/19 at 5:46 pm to Dead End
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Illegal immigrants have rights, but infant Americans don't?
frick you Democrats.
Children in cages, baby.
Posted on 1/30/19 at 5:47 pm to mahdragonz
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Let's be clear ..you think the government should decide over the family.
So I have a child who is born with no kidneys. That baby is born and technically could be somewhat kept alive.
My wife and I want only comfort care for the baby to pass. You think the hospital and government should over rule our beliefs and force to keep the baby alive by machines.
Go on.
You'll notice they specified mother. If its born, why doesnt the father get a say? If its born this isn't an abortion/women's issue.
Posted on 1/30/19 at 5:47 pm to L.A.
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"If a mother is in labor, I can tell you exactly what would happen. The infant would be delivered. The infant would be kept comfortable. The infant would be resuscitated if that’s what the mother and the family desired, and then a discussion would ensue between the physicians and the mother," Northam said, alluding to the physician and mother discussing whether the born infant should live or die.
Virginia Gov. Ralph Northam
That sounds to me like the mother and the physician are guilty of conspiring to murder a human being.
Posted on 1/30/19 at 5:48 pm to L.A.
A doctor should lose his license if that occurs.
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