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re: Here’s how and why our kids can’t buy a house. Thanks Obama.
Posted on 7/26/25 at 9:11 am to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 7/26/25 at 9:11 am to SlowFlowPro
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This is on Bush, Obama, and Trump
I believe it is much more on Clinton, Bush, and Obama. They all used a similar approach, putting in place government programs that favored certain groups and screwed over the middle class. NAFTA, TARP, and Obamacare are all examples of this elitist approach to supposedly fix a problem, but in reality these programs all benefited their rich friends.
This post was edited on 7/26/25 at 9:12 am
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Posted on 7/26/25 at 9:11 am to scottydoesntknow
We’ve told kids for 40 years that college is the only path to success. The overwhelming messaging was to direct ALL young people to college to work white collar jobs- even for degree programs that are fruitless. Then we started medicating them and keeping them on their parents insurance past their mid 20’s…
What could go wrong?
What could go wrong?
Posted on 7/26/25 at 9:12 am to Diamondawg
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the soft punk
Its funny how we tell children every day until 18 that they must go to the $60k diploma farm to get their job...then we call them soft punks when they dont want to then go trades school to become an electrician after sending out 500 job applications and zero interviews.
Posted on 7/26/25 at 9:14 am to Vacherie Saint
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We’ve told kids for 40 years that college is the only path to success.
Even with the issues, those with college degrees still out-earn those without, even with the high labor rates of trades (Due to low supply)
And there are many other benefits, like not breaking your body down more quickly and working around a general higher class of people (the funny part is that lots of college-educated professionals who don't interact with these people will melt more, like liberal white women proclaiming something is racist more than minorities will)
Posted on 7/26/25 at 9:15 am to scottydoesntknow
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There arent overnight fixes to a decades long rot that has been festering.
But we need to make homes more affordable.
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If builders didnt have access to cheap, govt subsidized labor, there would be a much higher demand for individual trades.
And costs to build would skyrocket, especially if done in the more ornate style you're proposing.
Again, we need to make homes more affordable.
Posted on 7/26/25 at 9:16 am to IMSA_Fan
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It’s hard to imagine a worse approach than Trump’s. Housing prices are already extremely unaffordable — so let’s start a trade war that spikes the 10-year yield (and also print a ton of money) and drives up material costs, while also deporting the very people who build homes, making labor even more expensive
Have treasury yields spiked or risen at all? No
Have material cost spiked? No
Has deporting people made labor more expensive? Not yet
One thing you forgot though, what does deporting people do for the housing market? Does millions of homes hitting the market because of millions of illegals being deported increase or decrease housing cost?
Posted on 7/26/25 at 9:16 am to IMSA_Fan
Your level of understanding is really pathetic and Jimmy Dore is a Democrat who was a Bernie supporter, also vaccine injured you people just will not admit they out to frick you too. Which is why you can’t be reasoned with when yall wake the frick up then maybe we can take the country back
This post was edited on 7/26/25 at 9:19 am
Posted on 7/26/25 at 9:17 am to bbvdd
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Does millions of homes hitting the market because of millions of illegals being deported increase or decrease housing cost?
This is one of those POV issues.
Will housing in lower class/poorer areas become cheaper? Likely.
Will this affect the homes that are being discussed on a message board primarily of college-educated professionals who want to live in a nice area? Not much
Posted on 7/26/25 at 9:19 am to Geekboy
I still have yet to some tell me 1 thing Trump has done to address the housing affordability crisis in his 4.5 years in office
Posted on 7/26/25 at 9:19 am to IMSA_Fan
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while also deporting the very people who build homes, making labor even more expensive
If people decrease by a few million demand goes down.
What happens when demand goes down- huh einstein?
Posted on 7/26/25 at 9:20 am to IMSA_Fan
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still have yet to some tell me 1 thing Trump has done to address the housing affordability crisis in his 4.5 years in office
Getting rid of millions makes demand goes way down.
See my above post
This post was edited on 7/26/25 at 9:20 am
Posted on 7/26/25 at 9:22 am to IMSA_Fan
quote:Look at interest rates and inflation between 2000 and 2024.
I still have yet to some tell me 1 thing Trump has done to address the housing affordability crisis in his 4.5 years in office
Posted on 7/26/25 at 9:24 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:No.
Now you're creating a straw man and engaging in the emotional-based implications you tried to pin on me
Neutered is a term reflecting permanence.
Stifled, stalled, impeded, set-back accurately convey ramifications of TGR on Gen-Y careers.
Neutered? ... no.
If folks were/are neutered post-2009, it's because the eunuchs self-castrated in a tantrum.
Posted on 7/26/25 at 9:25 am to NC_Tigah
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No.
Neutered is a term reflecting permanence.
Yes, that doesn't make it "insurmountable" on the individual level
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If folks were/are neutered post-2009, it's because the eunuchs self-castrated in a tantrum.
Yes, no population can be on the wrong side of societal variance.
Posted on 7/26/25 at 9:25 am to Diamondawg
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Look at interest rates and inflation between 2000 and 2024.
Covid fricked up the market again,
The bailouts and stimuluses that came in 2020 will go down as one of the biggest mass thefts in USA history.
Posted on 7/26/25 at 9:26 am to blue_morrison
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Over and over with this. Like these are jobs limited to some particular ethnicity right?
It never changes with the Dems: "If we free the slaves, who is gonna work the fields?" becomes, "If we deport the Messicans, who is gonna build our houses, pour the concrete, pick the vegetables, and clean the hotel rooms?"
The party and it's basic message has remained the same.
Posted on 7/26/25 at 9:27 am to IMSA_Fan
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policies that prevent corps from buying up massive shares of houses.
This is the only idea of yours that I like. The others sound good in theory, but you aren't taking into account the law of unintended consequences. All of them are short-sighted quick fixes that cause more issues down the road.
Posted on 7/26/25 at 9:27 am to IMSA_Fan
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while also deporting the very people who build homes, making labor even more expensive
Assume 4 people to a dwelling. You deport 1 million people. You increase housing supply by 250,000.
The more we deport, the cheaper housing becomes.
Posted on 7/26/25 at 9:28 am to ksayetiger
These people don’t own houses. If this were the case, why do housing prices continue to climb?
This post was edited on 7/26/25 at 9:29 am
Posted on 7/26/25 at 9:30 am to scottydoesntknow
quote:Disrelated. TARP was actually a brilliant program which cost the taxpayer nothing, made the government money, was non-debt inducing, and terminated what would have been a depression catalyzing financials feeding frenzy.
TARP and QE
QE and ZIRP are different issues.
This post was edited on 7/26/25 at 9:31 am
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