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re: Here we go Tim Pool being painted as a Russian asset. DOJ is going after him.

Posted on 9/5/24 at 7:40 am to
Posted by Flats
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Posted on 9/5/24 at 7:40 am to
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The pol in the OG Kraken was directly involved in the formation of the CT while the pol in Kraken 2 was more of a patsy along for the ride?



No.

One involved private (albeit a bit loony) citizens going up against the power of the state to right a perceived wrong.

The other involved the power of the state concentrated against a single individual. Limitless budget, every intel agency in on it.
This post was edited on 9/5/24 at 7:42 am
Posted by SDVTiger
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Posted on 9/5/24 at 7:41 am to
Never forget that TigerDoc and Boosie took that day off to hit the bars of DC for Mueller Time shot specials
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 9/5/24 at 7:42 am to
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One involved private (albeit a bit loony) citizens going up against the power of the state to right a perceived wrong.

The other involved the power of the state concentrated against a single individual.


The Piss Dossier was from private origins, though. The HRC Campaign is a private entity.

And I said both led to DOJ investigations, so I covered the state investigation part.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Posted on 9/5/24 at 7:43 am to
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The other involved the power of the state concentrated against a single individual. Limitless budget, every intel agency in on it.
This post was edited on 9/5/24 at 7:42 am


Whole espousing insane conspiracy theories.

He's not objective. He's playing a part of a propagandist.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 9/5/24 at 7:45 am to
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Whole espousing insane conspiracy theories.

He's not objective

I said the Russian dossier was fake pretty early on, Rog. I never waivered.

I was also pretty outspoken against muh Russia

Posted by Flats
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Posted on 9/5/24 at 7:46 am to
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And I said both led to DOJ investigations, so I covered the state investigation part.



That's "covering" the asymmetry I described? GTFO with that nonsense.

Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Posted on 9/5/24 at 7:52 am to
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said the Russian dossier was fake pretty early on, Rog.


I highly doubt it. You are just aware that no one can go back that far and find your drivel.

You probably tried to play both sides like you normally do because you can't possess individual or original ideas.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 9/5/24 at 7:57 am to
Well Russia was trying to make inroads into the Trump campaign. This is 100% documented fact. And not just via the POS Manafort. The infamous "Trump Tower Meeting" was 100% a honey pot attempt by Russia. Now, Trump and his son were smart enough not to get ensnared.

But this is all separate from the dossier.

The only way this ties into a larger CT is if you're arguing that Russia was acting on behalf of our CIA to create a justification for investigating Trump's campaign. Otherwise, it's either bad luck or amazing strategy by Clinton (for understanding that Russia was likely circling and her fake dossier would lead to legitimate investigatory justifications). I think it was just bad luck for Trump and not some larger conspiracy.

But, again, Trump (and his inner circle) is not dumb like Tim Pool.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 9/5/24 at 7:58 am to
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I highly doubt it.

You're wrong. It's documented fact.

You're now trying to mold reality to fit your preconceived views on the subject.

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You probably tried to play both sides like you normally do because you can't possess individual or original ideas.

No
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Posted on 9/5/24 at 7:59 am to
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You're now trying to mold reality to fit your preconceived views on the subject.


the reality is you try to play both sides and cannot give a personal opinion if it would save your life.

Everyone here is aware. Except you.

You rant on CTs, while helping espouse some of the original CTs. But of course your double talk will certainly clear that up, looking forward to your obfuscation.
This post was edited on 9/5/24 at 8:00 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 9/5/24 at 8:01 am to
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you try to play both sides

You're doing it again

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and cannot give a personal opinion if it would save your life.

I can, and do when appropriate.

Often, the goals of my commentary isn't to involve my personal opinion and is often to correct misinformation/intellectual dishonesty.

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You rant on CTs, while helping espouse some of the original CTs

Which "original CTs" did I "help espouse"?

Posted by Flats
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Posted on 9/5/24 at 8:02 am to
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word salad


You're making an effort, I'll give you that.

I'm not as impressed with your gray matter as you are but I think you understand the asymmetry I'm talking about. I'm confident most others reading this are as well.

Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 9/5/24 at 8:02 am to
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That's "covering" the asymmetry I described?


Its amazing how that spaghetti mind of his works.
Posted by GumboPot
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Posted on 9/5/24 at 8:04 am to
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Poole isn't the brightest bulb.



Tim Pool is a high school dropout but he is not dumb. His verbal IQ and reading comprehension are very high. He is naturally gifted. If not, he would not be as successful as he is today.
Posted by the808bass
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Posted on 9/5/24 at 8:05 am to
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The Piss Dossier was from private origins, though. The HRC Campaign is a private entity.


The DNC would like your help in their PR department.

The Piss Dossier’s value was that it was private. It was immediately laundered to the Government. That was the whole point of it. Denying that is just sad.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 9/5/24 at 8:05 am to
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Tim Pool is a high school dropout but he is not dumb. His verbal IQ and reading comprehension are very high. He is naturally gifted. If not, he would not be as successful as he is today.


He;s definitely smart enough to know his niche and his audience.

From Occupy Wall Street to MAGA. Thats quite the move. Influencers are toxic and should be treated as such.
Posted by the808bass
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Posted on 9/5/24 at 8:06 am to
Tim did yeoman’s work in illuminating the rot at Twitter. He will probably never really do anything of consequence afain.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 9/5/24 at 8:08 am to
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You're making an effort, I'll give you that.

There is no effort.

Everything I said is straight from the Mueller report and later reporting/investigations about the dossier (linking it back to HRC).

Russia had lots of contact/attempts with the Trump campaign.

The Trump campaign didn't bite.

The Trump campaign was being monitored due to these contacts (which did involve a little bit of ill action in some spots by the government).

The Trump campaign did not face any charges directly related to these contacts b/c they were smart and didn't break the law interacting with Russia.

DEMs/Leftists tried to spin all of this as Trump being a puppet of Russia when it was clear they were smart enough to avoid falling into the Russian honey pot attempts. If Trump was an agent of Russia, this charade wouldn't have been necessary and no intel investigation would have occurred, which, ironically, would have left a blank avatar that would have been much more powerful for the Left/DEMs
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
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Posted on 9/5/24 at 8:08 am to
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He is naturally gifted. If not, he would not be as successful as he is today.


Poole aside, "gifted" doesn't necessarily mean intelligent as most people understand the word. If he relies on clicks then entertainment is part of his show and entertaining doesn't require a high IQ. It doesn't say much about their IQ at all.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Posted on 9/5/24 at 8:09 am to


There is definitely a place for "influencer's" and independents in politics, and thats primarily in investigative work.

Theyre worthless to me as an echo chamber though. I dont want their opinions to be honest.
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