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re: Help on this question in my daughter's AP US History class.
Posted on 8/31/23 at 3:13 pm to Suck Out West
Posted on 8/31/23 at 3:13 pm to Suck Out West
You emailed the teacher? You going to get targeted by the teachers union and school board Baw. I'd go ahead and take her out of that school pronto!
Posted on 8/31/23 at 3:16 pm to Suck Out West
I blame the Teachers Union and the Laziness of the American People for the Leftists getting away with this narrative.
Tell your daughter to
first Google the number of free Black Citizens in 1865.
The largest Slave owner in Louisiana, Antoine Dubuclet
Dubuclet was also an important politician, after the war.
By 1860, he owned more than one hundred slaves and was considered the wealthiest black slaveholder in Louisiana.
Then Google "Black Slave owners before the Civil War". He wasn't the only one who owned slaves.
Google, who were the founders of the KKK.
Google which party started the freedom movement, toward integration?
She will be more educated on the subject than her Teacher.
"This executive order of September 23, 1957, signed by President Dwight Eisenhower, sent federal troops to maintain order and peace while the integration of Central High School in Little Rock, AR, took place.Feb 8, 2022"
Ike was a Republican.
Democrats started the movement of the destruction of the Black Family in the 60's, and they haven't turned back.
We have witnessed the results of that movement.
I think a school assignment of a term paper on Dubuclet, would be a great way to honor one of the most successful business men in the state, for Black History Month.
Tell your daughter to
first Google the number of free Black Citizens in 1865.
The largest Slave owner in Louisiana, Antoine Dubuclet
Dubuclet was also an important politician, after the war.
By 1860, he owned more than one hundred slaves and was considered the wealthiest black slaveholder in Louisiana.
Then Google "Black Slave owners before the Civil War". He wasn't the only one who owned slaves.
Google, who were the founders of the KKK.
Google which party started the freedom movement, toward integration?
She will be more educated on the subject than her Teacher.
"This executive order of September 23, 1957, signed by President Dwight Eisenhower, sent federal troops to maintain order and peace while the integration of Central High School in Little Rock, AR, took place.Feb 8, 2022"
Ike was a Republican.
Democrats started the movement of the destruction of the Black Family in the 60's, and they haven't turned back.
We have witnessed the results of that movement.
I think a school assignment of a term paper on Dubuclet, would be a great way to honor one of the most successful business men in the state, for Black History Month.
This post was edited on 8/31/23 at 3:21 pm
Posted on 8/31/23 at 3:17 pm to Suck Out West
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I agree. But as of now, her answer is that she doesn't understand what those incidents have to do with slavery. Which is the truth and are her words anyway.
She should just write "White people bad" and take the easy A. That's the answer the teacher is looking for.
This post was edited on 8/31/23 at 3:29 pm
Posted on 8/31/23 at 3:17 pm to Ten Bears
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In an intellectually honest world, I would have enjoyed a question like that.
Do you have a Time Machine that can take you back to the 1970's?
Posted on 8/31/23 at 3:19 pm to HillabeeBaw
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You emailed the teacher? You going to get targeted by the teachers union and school board Baw. I'd go ahead and take her out of that school pronto!
Yes. I'm drafting the email now. I'm not letting this go.
I sure wish I knew how to host images so I could show the teacher's response.
Posted on 8/31/23 at 3:19 pm to Gus007
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Ike was a Republican.
A real Republican at that, not like many since 1980 who have know clue of what it is to be a Republican.
Posted on 8/31/23 at 3:20 pm to Suck Out West
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"Protests which occurred in the United States during the summer of 2020 after the deaths of George Floyd and Breonna Taylor can be partially blamed on the Founding Fathers' handling of the slavery question back in 1789. Do you agree or disagree with the statement above? Justify."
It’s a loaded question if the teacher grades based on his/her personal preferences (which we’re assuming is a crazy lib) but I like that the teacher is giving the kids an opportunity to answer that for themselves. Don’t worry about her grade as long as she can back up her conclusion(s). That’s the important part here. This is an AP class and they should be challenged. Your daughter is smart enough to be in the class. I don’t doubt that she can fend for herself here. Have a discussion with her in preparation of her answering. Make sure she can defend her position, whatever that is. If you do that and the teacher gives her a bad grade you’ll know exactly what you’re dealing with but take it up with the school.
Posted on 8/31/23 at 3:22 pm to Suck Out West
Posted on 8/31/23 at 3:22 pm to Suck Out West
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I sure wish I knew how to host images so I could show the teacher's response.
The teachers response to who? I didn't think you or your daughter has addressed this yet.
Posted on 8/31/23 at 3:23 pm to Suck Out West
Monticello Apr. 22. 20.
I thank you, Dear Sir, for the copy you have been so kind as to send me of the letter to your constituents on the Missouri question. it is a perfect justification to them. I had for a long time ceased to read the newspapers or pay any attention to public affairs, confident they were in good hands, and content to be a passenger in our bark to the shore from which I am not distant. but this momentous question, like a fire bell in the night, awakened and filled me with terror. I considered it at once as the knell of the Union. it is hushed indeed for the moment. but this is a reprieve only, not a final sentence. a geographical line, coinciding with a marked principle, moral and political, once concieved and held up to the angry passions of men, will never be obliterated; and every new irritation will mark it deeper and deeper. I can say with conscious truth that there is not a man on earth who would sacrifice more than I would, to relieve us from this heavy reproach, in any practicable way. the cession of that kind of property, for so it is misnamed, is a bagatelle which would not cost me in a second thought, if, in that way, a general emancipation and expatriation could be effected: and, gradually, and with due sacrifices, I think it might be. but, as it is, we have the wolf by the ear, and we can neither hold him, nor safely let him go. justice is in one scale, and self-preservation in the other. of one thing I am certain, that as the passage of slaves from one state to another would not make a slave of a single human being who would not be so without it, so their diffusion over a greater surface would make them individually happier and proportionally facilitate the accomplishment of their emancipation, by dividing the burthen on a greater number of co-adjutors. an abstinence too from this act of power would remove the jealousy excited by the undertaking of Congress, to regulate the condition of the different descriptions of men composing a state. this certainly is the exclusive right of every state, which nothing in the constitution has taken from them and given to the general government. could congress, for example say that the Non-freemen of Connecticut, shall be freemen, or that they shall not emigrate into any other state?
I regret that I am now to die in the belief that the useless sacrifice of themselves, by the generation of '76. to acquire self government and happiness to their country, is to be thrown away by the unwise and unworthy passions of their sons, and that my only consolation is to be that I live not to weep over it. if they would but dispassionately weigh the blessings they will throw away against an abstract principle more likely to be effected by union than by scission, they would pause before they would perpetrate this act of suicide on themselves and of treason against the hopes of the world.
to yourself as the faithful advocate of union I tender the offering of my high esteem and respect. Th. Jefferson
I thank you, Dear Sir, for the copy you have been so kind as to send me of the letter to your constituents on the Missouri question. it is a perfect justification to them. I had for a long time ceased to read the newspapers or pay any attention to public affairs, confident they were in good hands, and content to be a passenger in our bark to the shore from which I am not distant. but this momentous question, like a fire bell in the night, awakened and filled me with terror. I considered it at once as the knell of the Union. it is hushed indeed for the moment. but this is a reprieve only, not a final sentence. a geographical line, coinciding with a marked principle, moral and political, once concieved and held up to the angry passions of men, will never be obliterated; and every new irritation will mark it deeper and deeper. I can say with conscious truth that there is not a man on earth who would sacrifice more than I would, to relieve us from this heavy reproach, in any practicable way. the cession of that kind of property, for so it is misnamed, is a bagatelle which would not cost me in a second thought, if, in that way, a general emancipation and expatriation could be effected: and, gradually, and with due sacrifices, I think it might be. but, as it is, we have the wolf by the ear, and we can neither hold him, nor safely let him go. justice is in one scale, and self-preservation in the other. of one thing I am certain, that as the passage of slaves from one state to another would not make a slave of a single human being who would not be so without it, so their diffusion over a greater surface would make them individually happier and proportionally facilitate the accomplishment of their emancipation, by dividing the burthen on a greater number of co-adjutors. an abstinence too from this act of power would remove the jealousy excited by the undertaking of Congress, to regulate the condition of the different descriptions of men composing a state. this certainly is the exclusive right of every state, which nothing in the constitution has taken from them and given to the general government. could congress, for example say that the Non-freemen of Connecticut, shall be freemen, or that they shall not emigrate into any other state?
I regret that I am now to die in the belief that the useless sacrifice of themselves, by the generation of '76. to acquire self government and happiness to their country, is to be thrown away by the unwise and unworthy passions of their sons, and that my only consolation is to be that I live not to weep over it. if they would but dispassionately weigh the blessings they will throw away against an abstract principle more likely to be effected by union than by scission, they would pause before they would perpetrate this act of suicide on themselves and of treason against the hopes of the world.
to yourself as the faithful advocate of union I tender the offering of my high esteem and respect. Th. Jefferson
Posted on 8/31/23 at 3:25 pm to Azkiger
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The teachers response to who? I didn't think you or your daughter has addressed this yet.
To my email. When I send it.
Posted on 8/31/23 at 3:26 pm to Figgy
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It’s a loaded question if the teacher grades based on his/her personal preferences (which we’re assuming is a crazy lib) but I like that the teacher is giving the kids an opportunity to answer that for themselves. Don’t worry about her grade as long as she can back up her conclusion(s). That’s the important part here. This is an AP class and they should be challenged. Your daughter is smart enough to be in the class. I don’t doubt that she can fend for herself here. Have a discussion with her in preparation of her answering. Make sure she can defend her position, whatever that is. If you do that and the teacher gives her a bad grade you’ll know exactly what you’re dealing with but take it up with the school.
If she wants to approach the question head on, I'd keep it simple and point out the utter lack of any elements in either Floyd's or Taylor's case that suggests what was done was done because of race.
Include a mention of Tony Timpa. A few years before Floyd he was knelt on for longer and died. But he's white. So we're the cops racist against white people in that instance?
Just because something happens to you doesn't mean your race played a roll.
This post was edited on 8/31/23 at 3:27 pm
Posted on 8/31/23 at 3:27 pm to Suck Out West
It’s an incredibly dumb question in isolation. But you guys are missing the point. Is a perfect opportunity to
Aarhus how absurd it is that every misfortune can be blamed on slavery. Take advantage of it. Maybe the teacher is looking for arguments from different sides. You
can’t honestly know unless you try.
Posted on 8/31/23 at 3:28 pm to Suck Out West
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To my email. When I send it.
It's your house/family, so do what you want.
But, personally, I wouldn't email unless my daughter is OK with it. It's her butt that's on the line, and the school year just started.
Posted on 8/31/23 at 3:29 pm to Suck Out West
The deaths of Floyd and Taylor had nothing to do with slavery not being outlawed by the founders.
Posted on 8/31/23 at 3:30 pm to Suck Out West
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Do you agree or disagree with the statement above? Justify."
These idiotic analytical statements want to use 2020 values and standards in an era 230 yrs ago. In 1789 the concern of the founding fathers was to forge a nation from a coalition of territories with different ethnic roots, laws, customs, etc. The stipulation of no slavery would have resulted in no new independent country at that time in history. The other choice was to bow to the Crown and beg for mercy. And at the time England still allowed slavery in the colonies…
Posted on 8/31/23 at 3:30 pm to Suck Out West
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Protests which occurred in the United States during the summer of 2020 after the deaths of George Floyd and Breonna Taylor can be partially blamed on the Founding Fathers' handling of the slavery question back in 1789.
They are more to be blamed on personal drug usage than founding fathers. Drugs played a roll in both
Posted on 8/31/23 at 3:33 pm to Suck Out West
There needs to be a better description of what "partial" means.
What are the exact assumptions the question is asking to consider?
What are the exact assumptions the question is asking to consider?
Posted on 8/31/23 at 3:33 pm to Barneyrb
That would be my response. Of course, I was in college when I didn’t play along with the BS. Nowadays, you risk it hitting the news.
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