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re: Hell is real. Non-Christians and unbelievers I would love your thoughts. I love you guys.

Posted on 4/27/21 at 9:38 pm to
Posted by m2pro
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 4/27/21 at 9:38 pm to
Hell is a foolish false reality in which to build a faith on. Fear is a TERRIBLE foundation.

Imagine a dad that chose to create you, set rules up you cannot understand because you're mentally handicapped, and then punishes you for eternity in a hell he literally created to suffer forever.... because you didn't understand X.

Sell people on Jesus's love. That shite is far more persuasive to build an honest faith.

Hell is for sheep.
Posted by texridder
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Oct 2017
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Posted on 4/27/21 at 9:57 pm to
Is there some reason why you think this is the board for this discussion?
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
63798 posts
Posted on 4/27/21 at 10:13 pm to
quote:

We’re in a simulation


The past year solidifies this theory.
Posted by FCP
Delta State Univ. - Fightin' Okra
Member since Sep 2010
5172 posts
Posted on 4/27/21 at 10:51 pm to
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Where did you and 8,000,000,000 people worldwide come from?
How many of those billions lived/died without any knowledge whatsoever of the Judaeo Christian God?
Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
Member since Nov 2012
46671 posts
Posted on 4/27/21 at 10:59 pm to
I think Billy Joel said it best

“They say there's a heaven for those who will wait
Some say it's better but I say it ain't
I'd rather laugh with the sinners than cry with the saints
The sinners are much more fun
Only the good die young”
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
45371 posts
Posted on 4/27/21 at 11:04 pm to
Nobody mentioned OP believes a dude who claims a worm hole opened up in his kitchen and he telaported to a prison cell with 12' lizards?
Posted by AmosMosesAndTwins
Lake Charles
Member since Apr 2010
19013 posts
Posted on 4/27/21 at 11:07 pm to
quote:

Fear is a TERRIBLE foundation.


I’d say it’s worked out pretty well for congregations.

quote:

Imagine a dad that chose to create you, set rules up you cannot understand because you're mentally handicapped, and then punishes you for eternity in a hell he literally created to suffer forever.... because you didn't understand X.


Imagine being taught you should tell your priest you masturbate, while he’s thinking about you masturbating, then kneeling down to sing a few songs to no music, all because some chick stuck an apple in her arse while I snake banged her or whatever.
Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
Member since Nov 2012
46671 posts
Posted on 4/27/21 at 11:13 pm to
Oh of course it’s all nonsense, but for some reason suggesting you’d rather go to Hell if it actually existed riles them up more than denying its existence altogether

All Christian apologetics hinges on the presuppositions that one, everyone (including nonbelievers) believe in objective meaning and moral truth and two, everyone would side with them if only they could be convinced of their claims about God.

If you rob them of those presuppositions (i.e. existence is ultimately meaningless, all morality is subjective and even if you believed their claims about God you might choose to not embrace him) they have nothing. The entire house of cards falls apart.
Posted by Giantkiller
the internet.
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 4/27/21 at 11:16 pm to
I’m a Catholic, so I just ask for forgiveness and poof... just like that. I’m forgiven. Weee!
Posted by 225bred
COYS
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 4/27/21 at 11:19 pm to
Lol at calling that music
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
28172 posts
Posted on 4/27/21 at 11:28 pm to
quote:

What an amazing culture.


I mean, the Christian god killed children (10th plague, Noah's flood, genocide of Canaanites/Jericho, Sodom and Gomorrah, etc.). I'm not sure you're in any position to judge.

But yea, those heathens who like their dicks licked...
Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 4/28/21 at 6:40 am to
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
63798 posts
Posted on 4/28/21 at 6:50 am to
quote:

I mean, the Christian god killed children (10th plague, Noah's flood, genocide of Canaanites/Jericho, Sodom and Gomorrah, etc.). I'm not sure you're in any position to judge.

But yea, those heathens who like their dicks licked...


They both suck.
Posted by Gravitiger
Member since Jun 2011
12462 posts
Posted on 4/28/21 at 6:53 am to
quote:

What an amazing culture.
Livin' easy
Lovin' free
Season ticket on a one way ride
Askin' nothin'
Leave me be
Takin' everythin' in my stride
Don't need reason
Don't need rhyme
Ain't nothin' that I'd rather do
Goin' down
Party time
My friends are gonna be there too

I'm on the highway to hell
On the highway to hell
Highway to hell
I'm on the highway to hell

No stop signs
Speed limit
Nobody's gonna slow me down
Like a wheel
Gonna spin it
Nobody's gonna mess me around
Hey satan
Payin' my dues
Playin' in a rockin' band
Hey mumma
Look at me
I'm on the way to the promised land

I'm on the highway to hell
Highway to hell
I'm on the highway to hell
Highway to hell
Don't stop me

Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
63798 posts
Posted on 4/28/21 at 6:54 am to
quote:

Livin' easy
Lovin' free
Season ticket on a one way ride
Askin' nothin'
Leave me be
Takin' everythin' in my stride
Don't need reason
Don't need rhyme
Ain't nothin' that I'd rather do
Goin' down
Party time
My friends are gonna be there too

I'm on the highway to hell
On the highway to hell
Highway to hell
I'm on the highway to hell

No stop signs
Speed limit
Nobody's gonna slow me down
Like a wheel
Gonna spin it
Nobody's gonna mess me around
Hey satan
Payin' my dues
Playin' in a rockin' band
Hey mumma
Look at me
I'm on the way to the promised land

I'm on the highway to hell
Highway to hell
I'm on the highway to hell
Highway to hell
Don't stop me


Are you equating the two sets of lyrics?
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
62080 posts
Posted on 4/28/21 at 6:57 am to
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How many of those billions lived/died without any knowledge whatsoever of the Judaeo Christian God?



In the book of Romans, it states that creation itself is a sign of a creator, and goes on to say, because of it, if people choose to not believe in a creator God, they are without excuse.
This post was edited on 4/28/21 at 6:58 am
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
63798 posts
Posted on 4/28/21 at 7:02 am to
quote:

In the book of Romans, it states that creation itself is a sign of a creator, and goes on to say, because of it, if people choose to not believe in a creator God, they are without excuse.


Pretty big difference between believing in a creator God and believing in Jesus.
Posted by Gravitiger
Member since Jun 2011
12462 posts
Posted on 4/28/21 at 7:03 am to
quote:

Are you equating the two sets of lyrics?


I'm equating the theme and message of the song.

The lyrics for Highway to Hell are terrible.
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
62080 posts
Posted on 4/28/21 at 7:07 am to
quote:

Pretty big difference between believing in a creator God and believing in Jesus.


Abraham lived long before Jesus and was obedient, and God counted his faith as righteousness. People who lived before the Law, will be judged differently.
This post was edited on 4/28/21 at 7:09 am
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
63798 posts
Posted on 4/28/21 at 7:07 am to
To lyrics to both seem pretty terrible.
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