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Heartwarming to know that liberals are dealing with their own version of McCain in Manchin

Posted on 6/7/21 at 4:23 pm
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 6/7/21 at 4:23 pm
Hey you leftist assholes, how's that country over party bullshite working out for you now?



But by all means leftists, please go ahead and primary Joe Manchin in West Virginia, and see how that works out for you. Us conservatives would appreciate you making our jobs easier for the general election.
This post was edited on 6/7/21 at 5:04 pm
Posted by TigerFanatic99
South Bend, Indiana
Member since Jan 2007
27480 posts
Posted on 6/7/21 at 4:31 pm to
These are completely different situations. McCain was deceptive, deceitful, and used his voting record as a form of vengeance against those he held grudges against. Manchin is nothing like that.
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 6/7/21 at 4:32 pm to
quote:

McCain was deceptive, deceitful, and used his voting record as a form of vengeance against those he held grudges against. Manchin is nothing like that.



Different intentions, different techniques.

Same results.
Posted by Pelican fan99
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Jun 2013
34653 posts
Posted on 6/7/21 at 5:00 pm to
I wish more people would throw the country over party bs back at them. That’s all we ever heard about McCain or any other Republican that didn’t like Trump
Posted by TideCPA
Member since Jan 2012
10342 posts
Posted on 6/7/21 at 5:02 pm to
I think Republicans need to start helping Democrats push to oust Manchin so he can be replaced by the WV governor or electorate. I don't think most of them realize he comes from the reddest state in the country.
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
47479 posts
Posted on 6/7/21 at 5:04 pm to
quote:

their own version of McCain in Manchin


their problem is that McCain had name recognition and everyone except Trump respected him and his service

with Manchin (and now Sinema) it's grifting knowing that he has the Democratic majority in his hands
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
39388 posts
Posted on 6/7/21 at 5:07 pm to
The big difference here is Manchin is dog meat in WV if he doesn’t stay a blue dog. He’s voting the way his constituents demand him to. McCain NEVER had to be such a self aggrandizing, two faced a-hole to keep his seat in the Senate. He did it for the attention.
Posted by SCLibertarian
Conway, South Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
35952 posts
Posted on 6/7/21 at 5:07 pm to
By most accounts, John McCain was a nasty, despicable human being with a volatile temper and a legendary mean streak, even by Washington standards. He is most assuredly burning in hell right now.
Posted by Chancellor
BHam
Member since Oct 2017
2224 posts
Posted on 6/7/21 at 5:09 pm to
To be fair, at least Joe Manchin never pretended to be a “war hero.”
Posted by Wally Sparks
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2013
29115 posts
Posted on 6/7/21 at 5:10 pm to
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and everyone except Trump respected him


McCain was a POS long before Trump came into the picture.
Posted by AURaptor
South
Member since Aug 2018
11958 posts
Posted on 6/7/21 at 5:11 pm to
I heard Charlie Kirk praising Manchin today and thought... ." If Joe M decides just this one time to give in and let the Marxists have their way, this country is toast. "

It's just that thin, and I'm not believing anything that's said until the votes are in or the bad bills are pulled.
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 6/7/21 at 5:12 pm to
quote:

The big difference here is Manchin is dog meat in WV if he doesn’t stay a blue dog. He’s voting the way his constituents demand him to.


Democrats don't care.

They'll gladly sacrifice Manchin to get their wish list items passed and thus they have no problem delivering unbelievable vitriol on him if he does not comply. They're going to treat him the way Donald Trump and real conservatives (justified in doing so) treated McCain.

Short term pain for long term gain.

So yeah, Democrats see Manchin the same way you and I see McCain.

quote:

McCain NEVER had to be such a self aggrandizing, two faced a-hole to keep his seat in the Senate. He did it for the attention.


Indeed. This is true.
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 6/7/21 at 5:13 pm to
quote:

By most accounts, John McCain was a nasty, despicable human being with a volatile temper and a legendary mean streak, even by Washington standards. He is most assuredly burning in hell right now.



My favorite picture of John McCain.

Posted by Rocco Lampone
Raleigh, NC
Member since Nov 2010
3051 posts
Posted on 6/7/21 at 5:30 pm to
McCain ran directly against the way he actually voted once Trump was in office. He was spiteful and intentional. Very different from Manchin.
Posted by N.O. via West-Cal
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2004
7178 posts
Posted on 6/7/21 at 5:46 pm to
"It's just that thin, and I'm not believing anything that's said until the votes are in or the bad bills are pulled."

We should all remember how thin it is the next time we start reading "uni-party" garbage on this board.
Posted by Plx1776
Member since Oct 2017
16171 posts
Posted on 6/7/21 at 9:11 pm to
Not the same at all. McCain was a Republican in a deep red state at that time. During his final election cycle.. he heavily campaigned on getting rid of Obamacare by any means necessary. Then a few months after he won.. he had the chance to get rid of Obamacare. He highfived Schumer as he betrayed his constituents and voted to keep Obamacare.

Manchin is a Democrat in a deep red state. He has to walk on eggshells, trying to not royally piss off either side.

Posted by TDFreak
Dodge Charger Aficionado
Member since Dec 2009
7350 posts
Posted on 6/7/21 at 10:38 pm to
quote:

Not the same at all. McCain was a Republican in a deep red state at that time. During his final election cycle.. he heavily campaigned on getting rid of Obamacare by any means necessary. Then a few months after he won.. he had the chance to get rid of Obamacare. He highfived Schumer as he betrayed his constituents and voted to keep Obamacare.

McCain was potter pretty low on my list prior to this event. But him holding his thumb down in the Senate chamber on the Obamacare repeal vote (when he literally said he would repeal it during his reelection) removed any remaining shred of respect I had for him.

He might have been a valiant warrior (still plenty of stories otherwise), but he abused his position as a United States senator one that day.
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