Health Reform is a BFD.

quote:

---

s anybody even making the point that it is an issue that he said a bad word?

---

There's no other argument to be made. The alleged comment was made in response to a lottery style immigration program...

If country of origin is the only criteria, then yea we need to focus on countries like Norway (who's average citizen is more likely to contribute to American society and be a net positive) verses shitholes like Haiti (who's average citizen is more likely to be of less value than the average Norway citizen).

That's an objective fact.

The only room left to bitch and moan is the language used, right?

quote:

---

Ambassadors jobs are made more difficult when POTUS calls said country a "shithole."

---

Citation needed.

Pretty sure the billions of dollars given to said countries overrides comments made behind closed doors for which there are not audio or video recordings. If its that big of a deal just withdraw foreign aid until those countries admit that its not that big of a deal.

quote:

---

Ambassadors jobs are made more difficult when POTUS calls said country a "shithole." The country's interests are not progressed when POTUS calls another country (or continent) a shithole.

---

If he said it in another manner, such as "these are very poor, underdeveloped, unsanitary nations", you are arguing it wouldn't be offensive?

Are we not supposed to be realists? Do you think leaders of these nations think their countries are in great shape?

quote:

---

Ambassadors jobs are made more difficult when POTUS calls said country a "shithole." The country's interests are not progressed when POTUS calls another country (or continent) a shithole.

---

Those jobs get harder because a bitch Senator puts feelings, personal feelings, and party over his country. Durbin should have thought about that before running and telling the world what was said in a private meeting.

If you went to a teacher's conference with your kid and she said, "Your kid is a piece of shite." Is that likely to improve your woking relationship with her?

What if she said, "Jr has behaved poorly and performed poorly thus far."

There is a difference whether you want to recognize it or not.

Comparing it to an individual person is apples to oranges.

Saying a nation is a shithole is not saying anything about its people, its leaders, or its potential. It's simply saying something (in a vulgar manner) about the actual state of things, which both the people of the nation and the leaders of the nation happen to agree with.

quote:

---

as the leader of the free world and the President of the United States you dont denigrate anyone, any nation, any person, ever. You parse your words around others in power to be presidential not ignorant.

---

Is that what Obama did when he poked fun of a certain portion of the American population who cling to their bibles and their guns?

Your analogy sucks arse

quote:

---

If you went to a teacher's conference with your kid and she said, "Your kid is a piece of shite." Is that likely to improve your woking relationship with her? What if she said, "Jr has behaved poorly and performed poorly thus far." There is a difference whether you want to recognize it or not.

---

You shouldn’t try analogies, you clearly don’t know how they work.