re: Haven't spoken to my father in almost a week

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Mom and dad are both Trumpers, but dad is a doctor. He doesn’t need any Facebook memes or YouTube videos to help make his decision. He’s vaxxed and boosted

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I am a "Trumper" as you call us. I don't mind being called a "Trumper" as long as you don't mind being truthfully called a worthless, piece of shite, scumbag Obama/Hillary/Biden voter.

I don't need CNN, MSNBC, or Anthony Fauci to help me decide against that vaccine.

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He’s vaxxed and boosted

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Who gives a damn how loud he bleats.

My mom felt the need to lie to my sister and tell her I wasn’t working from the office because my sister is so scared I’ll pass the omicron onto my parents. And my mom is pretty paranoid herself.

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May I direct your attention to a gentleman from the former USSR named Yuri Bezmenov in 1984.
I am not going to post a link, but it is easy to find, and he lays out what has happened for the last 35 or so years.

And here we are.

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Oh, I'm well aware and it's a shame Yuri's warning to us fell on many deaf ears. It's a death by a 1000 cuts and the CCP in particular are very patient. They have no problem waiting years, even decades for something to get results. If the lot of party members weren't incompetent by their own hubris and rampant corruption they could have easily become a superpower. The biggest reason they step on their own dicks constantly is due to their fear of "losing face".

Honestly, our greatest weapon against them is straight up trolling the motherfrickers. It's West Taiwan, a pretender, a usurper, the new coke of the two Chinas. They're basically the manlet of the world, low self esteem and the flexing of synthol pumped "muscles" that gave us the Wolf Warrior diplomacy where they still look incompetent on the world stage but hey it plays well for the home crowd. Thanks to good old Communist branded education, they have no creative individuals to make competitive military hardware so why they have to resort to electronic espionage. Remember, you're a faceless cog with just enough education to design a circuit board but not smart enough to conceptualize critical thinking. Huawei, one of their largest companies, isn't innovative. Hell their business started on blatantly copying not only Cisco code for their network switches but even copied the manuals word for word. I see recently their latest cell phone is creating buzz. It's a copy of Samsung's Galaxy Fold.

This is supposed to be their best? The CCP is a joke.

We give them a lot of credit they don't deserve but they're not the type of opponent to sleep on. They don't want a shooting war with us because they can't win a shooting war with us. So this is what they do. Divide and conquer and thanks to the suckers willing to go along with it and listen to the useful idiots who happily take the CCP's money to continue this charade. So long as they're getting paid they keep stoking that fire. This right here is what they want and I would not be shocked that even if, just speculating here, COVID was just an incompetent faceless cog lab worker who carelessly didn't follow safety protocols and brought this weak arse plague upon the world, you best believe the CCP will take advantage of the political fallout in some form or fashion.

So no, I'm not going to just stop talking to a loved one because of this. However I'm not going to indulge in it. That's it, full stop. I'm not going to tell you if I was vaccinated or not, or if my kids were or even my opinion on it. Nope, there are far more interesting things to discus than the one thing everyone has already been discussing ad-nauseum for the past two years. I refuse to let that bullshite affect my personal well being.

I’ve had to do battle with my parents a few times which is nuts because they are lifelong conservative republicans. I think the issue is that as they age they still consume surface level MSM just as they always did. Without realizing it they got infected with bullshite and now are filled with fear about everything and think Trump is mean.

A few weeks ago my dad was bitching about COVID and inflation and taxes, etc. and all I kept saying was “I know dad, but no mean tweets”. He started to get aggravated after a while lol. I had a similar conversation with mom and finally got her to agree with me that policy is more important than personality, there are no unicorns, and life was objectively better when Trump was in office. I know dad feels the same way, but dad has never admitted to being wrong in his life and he isn’t going to start now so I’ll just smile and toss a cheap shot at him every now and then and move on.

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I always read these stories here about people's brother or dad being insane lefties or Covidians. I'd never let my brother or dad get like that. I'd whip them straight.

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The stupidity of that is demonstrated with a simple thought experiment: What if they whipped you into thinking like them? Kind of a ridiculous thought, right?

I have a younger brother who is a Masked Covidian. He is 58. He is estranged from my other brother because my other brother is completely insouciant about Covid, and has been hilariously so from the beginning. My skeptical brother is not preachy or judgmental, but my Covidian brother has seen fit to ostracize him. It’s weird because I’m just as skeptical as my older brother, but he hasn’t gone to war on me. I think to him my skeptical brother is like the white whale was to Ahab.

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I was a raging cokehead until about 5.5 years ago. I was a hothead and a pretty big piece of shite.

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If your Dad still talks to you after this, you can probably be a bit more patient with his vaccine support.

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also wrong. This is easy to prove, and they have. The only question is how good the data is. But, I think the general consensus even among those

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Great response! I just want to point out that you are too cerebral to continue using “general consensus” since EVERY consensus is general.

Yeah, I have a few family members that are pretty much shunning anyone who didn't get jabs. I tried to explain that this is irrational since vaccinated people are contracting and spreading the virus, but no dice.

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The moral of the story is: Covid is a religious cult.

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Only on this board. It’s not a remotely interesting or worthwhile topic outside of the Deep South or in educated circles. I love to poke fun at y’all about it because y’all get so mad about it I’m in a red county in California where the vax rate is high (commensurate with the education level) and literally no one cares enough to even talk about it.