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re: Have you ever seen a politician commit political suicide more pathetically than RDS?

Posted on 7/8/23 at 5:37 pm to
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
53476 posts
Posted on 7/8/23 at 5:37 pm to
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Okay so.... what are they doing?


Basically, they are saying that DeSantis ran to the GOPe/NeverTrumpers and is taking bad advice.

These are the same losers that refuse to listen to the people they want voting for them.

They have killed his campaign because people on the ground know who is who. It translates to how they conducted his run.

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What is being done that's being a cancer on him?


The never Trumpers like Jeff Roe. A majority of the base is done with the never Trumpers and we don;t forget.


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What is going to kill him? Be specific now


He's saying that the Never Trumpers within his campaign running things is killing his campaign. Not him personally.


Posted by lsuguy84
CO
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 7/8/23 at 5:38 pm to
Makes sense. I’d say him renewing the Patriot Act kinda lifted the veil for me. I knew after that, we weren’t serious about taking anything down and making any serious changes.
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
53476 posts
Posted on 7/8/23 at 5:38 pm to
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It's his people... his backers... his media pushers.



What... are... they... doing... ?




Airing out the issues within his campaign.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 7/8/23 at 5:38 pm to
Just keep repeating it, Jj. You don’t need anything other than repetition.

Which is convenient. Because it’s all you have.
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
53476 posts
Posted on 7/8/23 at 5:40 pm to
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Jjdoc doesn’t operate in specifics. He operates via quoting random, irrelevant Twitter accounts and extrapolating their comments across the entire Republican electorate.






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Neither he nor anyone he follows on Twitter or anyone who thinks like him understand the actual electoral situation. They spend too much time worshipping echo chambers on the Internet.


Yet here I am right about what was going to happen.


Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
422888 posts
Posted on 7/8/23 at 5:41 pm to
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Basically, they are saying that DeSantis ran to the GOPe/NeverTrumpers

So bullshite lies only people who want to believe rely on for confirmation bias. Gotcha.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111554 posts
Posted on 7/8/23 at 5:41 pm to
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Yet here I am right about what was going to happen.


You’re so fricking dumb that you don’t know how dumb you are. That doesn’t help those of us who read your tripe.
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
53476 posts
Posted on 7/8/23 at 5:42 pm to
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It’s not. Those are all false things about DeSantis. They’re known to be false.


1- I don't think I ever posted those things, but my point stands.

2- My point is that DeSantis supporters have been doing the same damn things here.

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It’s good that you’re admitting that you have no problem peddling falsehoods (even implicitly).




Whatever
Posted by themunch
Earth. maybe
Member since Jan 2007
64683 posts
Posted on 7/8/23 at 5:42 pm to
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This should make you wonder more about MAGA than anything else.

Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
53476 posts
Posted on 7/8/23 at 5:43 pm to
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It's a coordinated media effort to scream RON DESANTIS IS FAILING HE'S DEAD until people become demoralized and start believing it. It's straight out of the democrats and Team Trump. They can't win the long war so they're trying to goad them into one decisive battle akin to the Japanese strategy vs America in WWII. Trump's Pearl Harbor was attacking DeSantis before his reelection. DeSantis has responded by launching the Doolittle Raid when he announced.


Dude.... It's his supporters! Erickson, Cern, Election wiz, etc etc etc...


Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111554 posts
Posted on 7/8/23 at 5:43 pm to
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My point is that DeSantis supporters have been doing the same damn things here.


Yes. It’s ok to lie because your opponents are lying. Good argument.
Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
Member since Apr 2015
29183 posts
Posted on 7/8/23 at 5:43 pm to
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He should have never challenged Trump.
His best bet was to stay on the sideline and only step in if Trump is somehow disqualified.




Because of….reasons?
Posted by lsuguy84
CO
Member since Feb 2009
19771 posts
Posted on 7/8/23 at 5:45 pm to
If Trump would’ve come out as a leader and said “I look forward to the challenge of campaigning against Ron. We need to cultivate young talent in the party”, I’d say he would have a better shot in the general. Maintaining the status quo from 15-16 isn’t bringing anyone in, and more than likely turning people away.
Posted by rmnldr
Member since Oct 2013
38236 posts
Posted on 7/8/23 at 5:45 pm to
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Basically, they are saying that DeSantis ran to the GOPe/NeverTrumpers and is taking bad advice.



Okay, advice about what? What shows he's taking this advice?

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They have killed his campaign because people on the ground know who is who. It translates to how they conducted his run.


Yet people like Scott Presler are saying that DeSantis' ground operation is a well-oiled machine.

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The never Trumpers like Jeff Roe. A majority of the base is done with the never Trumpers and we don;t forget.


What did Jeff Roe do to you?

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He's saying that the Never Trumpers within his campaign running things is killing his campaign.



Okay. How? How is his campaign being killed?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
422888 posts
Posted on 7/8/23 at 5:45 pm to
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Dude.... It's his supporters! Erickson, Cern, Election wiz, etc etc etc...

Did you think these people were ever going to support Trump?
Posted by rmnldr
Member since Oct 2013
38236 posts
Posted on 7/8/23 at 5:46 pm to
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Dude.... It's his supporters! Erickson, Cern, Election wiz, etc etc etc...


bullshite.

Go look at people in his circle and none of them are saying this.

Once again, no specifics, just rhetoric. Classic psyop.


ETA: It's almost like y'all have forgotten 2016. Do you remember when Ann Coulter said the most likely person to win was Donald Trump and she was laughed at incessantly? Remember Obama's mic drop moment? Donald Trump was never going to be president.


He showed up to the debates and won the hearts of everyone. Now he's too scared to even debate. DeSantis is getting all of the attention now for supposedly being dead in the water. He's awkward, he dresses weird, his wife dresses weird, he eats pizza weird, etc etc just a bunch of bullshite.

You're just like the leftists in 2016.
This post was edited on 7/8/23 at 5:49 pm
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
26484 posts
Posted on 7/8/23 at 5:46 pm to
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It's his supporters! Erickson, Cern, Election wiz, etc

It’s JJdoc’s DUTY to follow faux-political celebrities on Twitter and tell everyone what those losers think! After all, their opinions are important. Jjdoc is performing a public service.
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
53476 posts
Posted on 7/8/23 at 5:47 pm to
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Just keep repeating it, Jj. You don’t need anything other than repetition.


So you are trying to say the Erickson isn't a DeSantis supporter? That Cern isn't... That Jeff Roe is not part of his campaign...

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Which is convenient. Because it’s all you have.




Actually, I have their words... I have the results of money being dumped into states that resulted in him dropping in polls. etc etc.

Posted by Boks
Red Lodge, MT
Member since Jul 2013
1122 posts
Posted on 7/8/23 at 5:47 pm to
The Rob brand has now been damaged. Honestly, I doubt he would have had the temperament to be president in 24, 28, or anytime. He didn't do very well at picking a campaign team.
The American ppl would have discovered his lack of personality sooner or later. I still don't see how Rob would have ever appealed to the middle in a national election (pls spare me the Miami/Dade County BS). Anyway, we'll see if he stays relevant and tries again one day.
This post was edited on 7/8/23 at 5:48 pm
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
53476 posts
Posted on 7/8/23 at 5:48 pm to
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So bull shite lies only people who want to believe rely on for confirmation bias. Gotcha.


Again........ HIS SUPPORTERS... not mine.


Go take it up with them and tell them they don;t know what they are talking about.

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