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re: Has anyone opposing tariffs and is "of authority" offered a solution?

Posted on 4/4/25 at 9:39 pm to
Posted by Warboo
Enterprise Alabama
Member since Sep 2018
4491 posts
Posted on 4/4/25 at 9:39 pm to
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You said world in the post I responded to..


Cool!! Answer the question.
Posted by dkreller
Laffy
Member since Jan 2009
32296 posts
Posted on 4/4/25 at 9:41 pm to
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Is that all you got? Come on, do better.

shite comments get shite responses. Take your own advice KiwiBrain.
Posted by junkfunky
Member since Jan 2011
34967 posts
Posted on 4/4/25 at 11:07 pm to
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The purported problems are iin doubt for many.


What about those of us that aren't stupid?
Posted by westerntigerfan
Member since Oct 2012
949 posts
Posted on 4/4/25 at 11:56 pm to
The solution is moving to a consumption tax. The Fair Tax would make US produced goods more competitive in foreign markets. It would bring manufacturing back to America, because corporations would not be taxed at all. It would achieve all the goals that tariffs are supposed to achieve without the negative economic effects.
Posted by ole man
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2007
14545 posts
Posted on 4/5/25 at 3:11 am to
That's because he's stupid, I bet if Barack was doing this shite he'd be eatin his shite, the one thing democrats are really good at is being utterly stupid, they just don't fricking get it, and never will.
The problem with SFP and the rest of the libs here and around the world is the people they worship are the ones that are gonna benefit not the piss ant on the street, you gonna be eating spam while they eat steak and eggs, they don't give a shite about you either.

So if that day ever comes, don't you dare come try to take my shite because your day will end badly.
This post was edited on 4/5/25 at 3:18 am
Posted by Hayekian serf
GA
Member since Dec 2020
3559 posts
Posted on 4/5/25 at 5:57 am to
A solution to what?
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
32814 posts
Posted on 4/5/25 at 6:45 am to
Still Single A ball dude, come on you have better in you.....or are you tapped out, a bust?
Posted by Cuz413
Member since Nov 2007
9111 posts
Posted on 4/5/25 at 6:52 am to
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This is a "moving target" issue common with MAGA-ites.


I'm not the most well known poster on this board, but I made my opinions about Trump be known well before the election.

My problem is the sky screaming about reciprocal tariffs. Does the average American think companies that employ other Americans should just lose potential profits because they have to price exported goods to compensate for the inbound country's tariffs?


Also.we see the decline of the middle class and it's not one thing driving it. Bringing jobs and manufacturing back to the States is sorely needed.and if tariffs wakes up people to realize that, so be it.
Posted by Cuz413
Member since Nov 2007
9111 posts
Posted on 4/5/25 at 6:54 am to
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A solution to what?


Tariff imbalances
Posted by RohanGonzales
Member since Apr 2024
4614 posts
Posted on 4/5/25 at 7:19 am to
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To what, exactly?

The purported problems are iin doubt for many.


So your solution is to wish them away.

Lawyers are useful for anything besides shifting money around and getting a cut of it.
Posted by frogtown
Member since Aug 2017
5389 posts
Posted on 4/5/25 at 7:27 am to
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A solution to what?


Tariff imbalances


Your solution is to tax American consumers, lower the standard of living, and eventually crush GDP growth. That is what happens with your solution. Just be ready.

Also if all tariffs go away, which we want, that still doesn't guarantee manufacturing is/will come back to the US. You do realize that, don't you?
Posted by Jimmy Russel
Member since Nov 2021
555 posts
Posted on 4/5/25 at 8:23 am to
The schtick about being objective has worn thin with SFP because he's never seen a Trump policy he's liked. Ignore his posts...don't like or dislike.
Posted by offshoretrash
Farmerville, La
Member since Aug 2008
10526 posts
Posted on 4/5/25 at 8:39 am to
This tariff war has shown just how stupid democrats are. They are so lost their only arguments are, there's not a trade problem, we shouldn't treat allies this way, it's gonna cause prices to go up, blah, blah, blah.

American companies operating in Brazil barely make profits because of the import tariffs of supplys and equipment. But a Brazilian company can operate in the US with no import tariffs. You don't think that's wrong and unfair?

This is typical with most foreign countries.

I think the people that are against tariffs live in a bubble and haven't seen what other countries do to us when it comes to trade.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
130835 posts
Posted on 4/5/25 at 8:46 am to
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Your solution is to tax American consumers, lower the standard of living
Yikes.
Do you pay any taxes at all, currently?

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Also if all tariffs go away, which we want, that still doesn't guarantee manufacturing is/will come back to the US.
The only guarantees in life are death and .... wait4it .... taxes.

Regarding the latter, why in the world would you object to taxes which might be mitigated somewhat by foreign entities?
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
36594 posts
Posted on 4/5/25 at 10:03 am to
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Bringing jobs and manufacturing back to the States is sorely needed.
What jobs and manufacturing do you want to bring back / create?

Obviously clothing manufacturing won't come back in any significant numbers. Car manufacturing? Car parts?

The main jobs that we could "bring back" are service jobs like call centers or IT.
Posted by Cuz413
Member since Nov 2007
9111 posts
Posted on 4/5/25 at 10:06 am to
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Your solution is to tax American consumers, lower the standard of living, and eventually crush GDP growth. That is what happens with your solution. Just be ready.

Also if all tariffs go away, which we want, that still doesn't guarantee manufacturing is/will come back to the US. You do realize that, don't you?


Gotcha. So you're ok with the status quo of the last 30-40 years? No issues, right? We will just import all of our goods. No security issues with that at all.

I really don't care for tariffs, but let's not act like reciprocal tariffs weren't needed.
Posted by Hayekian serf
GA
Member since Dec 2020
3559 posts
Posted on 4/5/25 at 9:49 pm to
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Tariff imbalances


“Tariff imbalances” implies some nations are taxing U.S. exports while we aren’t taxing theirs—or are taxing less. The instinct is to “even the playing field” with retaliatory tariffs. But economically, that’s self-defeating.

From a pure free-market perspective, the most efficient and wealth-generating policy isn’t matching others’ bad policies—it’s eliminating our own. If the U.S. were to:
• Eliminate all tariffs, and
• Drop the corporate tax rate to zero,

…we would trigger a capital and productivity boom.

Here’s why:
1. Tariffs hurt our own consumers and businesses. They are taxes that raise prices, distort markets, and reduce economic efficiency. Even if other countries keep tariffs, we still benefit from cheaper inputs, lower consumer prices, and more efficient allocation of resources. That’s straight from Ricardo’s Law of Comparative Advantage.
2. Zero corporate tax would make the U.S. the premier destination for global capital. Multinationals would relocate. Domestic firms would reinvest. We’d see soaring job creation, productivity gains, and wage growth. We’d outcompete globally by making our economy the most investment-friendly in the world.
3. Combined, these policies would drive an economic explosion. Cheaper goods, lower input costs, higher profits, massive investment inflows—these all translate into real GDP growth.

Yes, it’s politically unrealistic right now. And yes, there are national security and transitional considerations in certain sectors. But from a strictly economic lens, these policies would make us wealthier and more competitive—regardless of what other nations do.

So if the problem is “tariff imbalances,” the best economic solution isn’t to match dumb policies—it’s to stop taxing our own citizens and producers in the name of fairness.
Posted by carnuba
tickfaw
Member since Jan 2009
1296 posts
Posted on 4/5/25 at 11:34 pm to
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Perhaps not take on the entire world all at once? This approach allows for cooperation among countries and softens the blow.


or it doesn't allow countries to drag arse about getting their
shite together
Posted by ole man
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2007
14545 posts
Posted on 4/6/25 at 5:17 pm to
He must have downvoted you
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