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re: Gun control narrative # 3,903,754,118 (Connecticut related)

Posted on 2/5/19 at 3:24 pm to
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
22253 posts
Posted on 2/5/19 at 3:24 pm to
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Number of potential gun deaths has zero to do with why I own guns.


What in the frick gave you the impression that I give a rat's arse about why you personally own guns?
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
38439 posts
Posted on 2/5/19 at 3:25 pm to
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What in the frick gave you the impression that I give a rat's arse about why you personally own guns?


Why don’t you want the 18 year old black girl in the hood who’s trying to better her life to be able to defend her life?
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 2/5/19 at 3:26 pm to
quote:

Number of potential gun deaths has zero to do with why I own guns.


Don't dodge.

Answer the rest of the post.

But, let's take this further. You agreed with my examples. So, why are you not for reducing the number or banning doctors, homebuilders, killing depressed people or banning marriage?
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
22253 posts
Posted on 2/5/19 at 3:26 pm to
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Because that's what you're doing when you are asked to explain YOUR assertion and all you do is say, "here, read this".


It's a lot faster than condensing a dozen published journal articles into a paragraph which is essentially exactly what I told you.

Especially when your response is "we don't understand why confounders would matter when comparing variables".

Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 2/5/19 at 3:26 pm to
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It's a lot faster than condensing a dozen published journal articles into a paragraph which is essentially exactly what I told you.



But, let's take this further. You agreed with my examples. So, why are you not for reducing the number or banning doctors, homebuilders, killing depressed people or banning marriage?
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
22253 posts
Posted on 2/5/19 at 3:26 pm to
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Sounds like you favor door to door confiscation.


Of Republican first, amirite?

Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
38439 posts
Posted on 2/5/19 at 3:27 pm to
Why don’t you want small females to be able to defend themselves from sexual assault or rape?

How is a 100 lb girl going to stop a 250 pound man from raping her?

Why don’t you care about sexual assault victims? If you cared about them you wouldn’t want to strip them of their protection.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 2/5/19 at 3:28 pm to
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Why don’t you want small females to be able to defend themselves from sexual assault or rape?

Let's get him to answer my question first.

But, let's take this further. You agreed with my examples. So, why are you not for reducing the number or banning doctors, homebuilders, killing depressed people or banning marriage?
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
22253 posts
Posted on 2/5/19 at 3:29 pm to
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So, why are you not for reducing the number or banning doctors, homebuilders, killing depressed people or banning marriage?


Because they provide a benefit to society, and there are already strict rules in place before we can practice medicine, or anyone can build a home (in most places don't fricking lose your shite over building a goddamn cabin in the fricking swamp), or treating depressed individuals, or even divorcing someone!

The degree of outcome between "fewer divorces" and "fewer gun deaths" is also a few scales of magnitude away. Clearly.
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
22253 posts
Posted on 2/5/19 at 3:30 pm to
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Why don’t you want small females to be able to defend themselves from sexual assault or rape?


The likelihood that a firearm will be used in self-defense is miniscule compared to the chance it will be taken from said woman and used to murder her.

Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 2/5/19 at 3:30 pm to
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Because they provide a benefit to society,


Thank you. So now you grasp that there are more variables for keeping a thing that has an identifiable negative effect than simply looking at the negative effect.

Good. And now you know why I don't give a rat's frick about your retarded single variable analysis.
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
38439 posts
Posted on 2/5/19 at 3:30 pm to
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Because they provide a benefit to society


Firearms provide a benefit to small females. It allows a tiny girl to defend herself against a much larger man.

Why do you support sexual assault?
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 2/5/19 at 3:31 pm to
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The likelihood that a firearm will be used in self-defense is miniscule compared to the chance it will be taken from said woman and used to murder her.

Group statistics are not directly applicable to individuals.

As a doctor, you should know this.
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
38439 posts
Posted on 2/5/19 at 3:31 pm to
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The likelihood that a firearm will be used in self-defense is miniscule compared to the chance it will be taken from said woman and used to murder her.


If it saves one life. Right bitch?

Oh, and uh. All of these personal stories show that it happens far more than you are willing to admit. LINK

Like I said, why do you support sexual assault? You’re nothing but a hypocritical little whore
This post was edited on 2/5/19 at 3:33 pm
Posted by oleheat
Sportsman's Paradise
Member since Mar 2007
14776 posts
Posted on 2/5/19 at 3:32 pm to
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That will teach him to try to use data and studies to demonstrate his point.



I could give two shits about junk data/studies from gun control groups.


They cancel themselves out.





Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
22253 posts
Posted on 2/5/19 at 3:32 pm to
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Group statistics are not directly applicable to individuals.


Population statistics are more useful in planning for outcomes than anecdotes which do not mitigate overall harm.

If 50 people have to die for every 1 woman saved from sexual assault, would you take that trade? Or would you work to save the 50 people and find other ways to protect the 1 woman?

What about 500 people? 5000?
Posted by ljhog
Lake Jackson, Tx.
Member since Apr 2009
20582 posts
Posted on 2/5/19 at 3:32 pm to
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it WILL be brought up in your state legislature.

That would make ammunition an good investment right now.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
74144 posts
Posted on 2/5/19 at 3:32 pm to
You know much that isn’t so
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
22253 posts
Posted on 2/5/19 at 3:33 pm to
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single variable analysis.


Everything I linked was multivariate.

Obviously - because unlike our buddy DisplacedBuckeye, I know what that word meant before today.

Posted by ninthward
Boston, MA
Member since May 2007
22738 posts
Posted on 2/5/19 at 3:33 pm to
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The likelihood that a firearm will be used in self-defense is miniscule compared to the chance it will be taken from said woman and used to murder her.
But you're so self-righteous you want to take away the right for everyone you don't care about anyone else other than what you want. You want to ban guns and you dont care about others rights. Yet you want others to recognize your rights. You are just like any other liberal progressive you cannot think for yourself.
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