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re: Gross: Hawley teaming up with Bernie sanders to put a cap on credit card interest rates

Posted on 2/5/25 at 8:45 am to
Posted by SlayTime
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Posted on 2/5/25 at 8:45 am to
Usury destroys nations. This is good for our nation.
Posted by BlackAdam
Member since Jan 2016
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Posted on 2/5/25 at 8:46 am to
The Hawley Sanders Available Credit Reduction Act,
Posted by aubie101
Russia
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Posted on 2/5/25 at 8:47 am to
Good
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
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Posted on 2/5/25 at 8:47 am to
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Usury destroys nations


So does impeding commerce through socialism. That's what this BS is.
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
16178 posts
Posted on 2/5/25 at 8:48 am to
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more responsible customers.


Well, no shite. That's called a credit score; the Indvidual lender probably uses a custom scoring model based on what they think are the riskiest indicators for their customer base. Some people are riskier than others. There's a reason a 35 year old married dude is likely to qualify for a lower interest rate than the 19 year old in Army AIT that will probably be divorced twice by 25. That's why the latter gets 27% interest rates on a secured loan, the former does not.
Posted by whatiknowsofar
hm?
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Posted on 2/5/25 at 8:50 am to
None of this shite would be necessary if you made credit a mandatory class to pass in high school.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
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Posted on 2/5/25 at 8:52 am to
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Credit card companies
The OP is not about credit card companies. It is about banks.
Posted by Cool McCool
Member since Nov 2024
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Posted on 2/5/25 at 8:54 am to
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The OP is not about credit card companies. It is about banks.

Okay, who wants to tell him?
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
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Posted on 2/5/25 at 8:54 am to
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credit a mandatory class

You think that'd make a difference? They've run tests with kids that prove that they have an extremely hard time making decisions that are beneficial to them in the long run (one M&M now, or you can have two if you wait 20m?) And no, a 17 year old is not really all that different than a six year old when it comes to predicting consequences. Hence $1200 a month car payments when your gross as an E-2 is 2,261.10. And don't forget the loans for the rims and the ceramic tint.
Posted by ragincajun03
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 2/5/25 at 8:55 am to
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Dangit, we should have voted for Kamala!


Proud to have pulled the lever for her, unlike you fools who want our country to keep running on dinosaur bones.
Posted by GeauxtigersMs36
The coast
Member since Jan 2018
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Posted on 2/5/25 at 8:58 am to
How would this affect Affirm and other companies like it? You pay over time sometimes a fee depending on how long your payments verses how much. There’s plenty of people myself included who’ve used it.
Posted by Foch
Member since Feb 2015
804 posts
Posted on 2/5/25 at 8:58 am to
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Now you have posters not only supporting these regulations, but fricking capping interest rates on credit cards. And they pretend like this is the common, normal view of "conservatives" or "the right" while pretending to align the majority of their political beliefs solely along the "anti-Left" spectrum.


What exactly are you trying to "conserve" as the heart of a conservative viewpoint? From reading your arguements, the economy and freest exchange of goods is what you prioritize while others in this thread who point out the net effect of sports gambling and usurious lending appear to be interested in a conservative view that applies to family and soul.

You haven't contended with any if the arguements that point out the privatized gains of usury and socialized effects of credit card or gambling driven debt on society.

You also haven't written anything to address the massive undercutting of localism that occurs when ever greater portions of family budgets are spent sending funding out of communities and into the coffers of large financial institutions. Sure, chase and BoA can open a local branch in your community. Does that really offset the healthy spending that communities could benefit from if capital remained closer to home and bought homes, food, entertainment, and consumer goods?

You are right that the "brand" of conservative is changing and it is changing for the good. The decades of "trust" in the market as a purveyor of the common good are at their end. The dismantling of domestic manufacturing in the name of market efficiency (so so good right?) and the corresponding impact on family in America is bringing about a reversion towards a conservatism that was inwardly focused and driven by a bias to set conditions for localism and the flourishing of the family.

If you don't believe that conservatism should be interested in fostering familial health than please fully embrace anarchism and its other ills: unfettered access to vice (drugs, pornography, exploitation of some for the pleasure or profit of others), might making right, and man as a selfish individual "island".
Posted by whatiknowsofar
hm?
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 2/5/25 at 8:59 am to
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Hence $1200 a month car payments when your gross as an E-2 is 2,261.10


No one will get approved for a 1200/month note with that income. Don't be naive.


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You think that'd make a difference


You think it wouldn't help at all?


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And no, a 17 year old is not really all that different than a six year old when it comes to predicting consequences.


Lol
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
139056 posts
Posted on 2/5/25 at 8:59 am to
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The OP is not about credit card companies. It is about banks.
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Okay, who wants to tell him?


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You can not use price controls for interest rates of private creditors. If you do, they will simply stop extending credit. Unsecured credit card debt is risky. That’s why rates are high.
This (OP) is accurate.
Posted by Green Chili Tiger
Lurking the Tin Foil Hat Board
Member since Jul 2009
50742 posts
Posted on 2/5/25 at 9:00 am to
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Pure economic illiteracy.


The 10% cap on credit card interest was one of Trump's campaign promises.
Posted by SlayTime
Member since Jan 2025
3738 posts
Posted on 2/5/25 at 9:00 am to
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So does impeding commerce through socialism. That's what this BS is.


Are you a “America only exists as an economic zone” bros? If a company can make more hiring 1000 Jeets vs Americans then so be it?
Posted by Cool McCool
Member since Nov 2024
2652 posts
Posted on 2/5/25 at 9:03 am to
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The OP is not about credit card companies. It is about banks.
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Okay, who wants to tell him?
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Everyone who has a credit card issued by a bank. Raise your hand.


Posted by stout
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Posted on 2/5/25 at 9:05 am to
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Are you a “America only exists as an economic zone” bros? If a company can make more hiring 1000 Jeets vs Americans then so be it?


Not even close but I am a free and open-market guy who thinks the government should have limited control over the economy.

Only an idiot can't see how detrimental this would be for the very people they claim they want to help. Cap rates and watch the credit market dry up overnight for low-income and people with borderline or lower credit scores. The very people most reliant on easy-to-obtain credit. It will no longer be easier to obtain if lenders can not offset the risk with higher rates.

We are trying to get rid of beaurecrats who wield too much power. Not create more and that's what this and the BS CFPB are.
Posted by Foch
Member since Feb 2015
804 posts
Posted on 2/5/25 at 9:05 am to
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So does impeding commerce through socialism


Usury was limited in numerous instances prior to any concept of "muh socialism" and is considered a grave evil by every major religion.

Other examples of "socialism" by your loose definition: limits on vice in the marketplace, limits on monopolies, workplace safety, and consumer protections/manufacturing transparency (what is really in my eggo waffles).
Posted by Adajax
Member since Nov 2015
8673 posts
Posted on 2/5/25 at 9:10 am to
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If you do, they will simply stop extending credit.


That's the way it should be.
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