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re: Governor John Kasich

Posted on 5/6/17 at 8:10 am to
Posted by Navytiger74
Member since Oct 2009
50458 posts
Posted on 5/6/17 at 8:10 am to
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He ran a limited race. The less time you're out there the less time for criticism because you won't be considered a viable candidate. I have no opinion of his politics, just his authenticity of being a "real" candidate.
It seems like you're just making things up. What inauthentic thing did he do? What does running a limited race or how
much criticism he took have to do with being a "real" candidate? He kept his hat in the ring in case the convention was contested. Is that really wrong or inauthentic?
This post was edited on 5/6/17 at 8:13 am
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 5/6/17 at 8:12 am to
ah, the guy who never has a prayer of winning so you are safe to ascribe how perfect he would be in office without ever being proven wrong

see various libertarian permutations for other examples
Posted by tedmarkuson
texas
Member since Feb 2015
2592 posts
Posted on 5/6/17 at 8:15 am to
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ah, the guy who never has a prayer of winning so you are safe to ascribe how perfect he would be in office without ever being proven wrong

see various libertarian permutations for other examples




you sir are a genius.....have an upvote!


Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
98258 posts
Posted on 5/6/17 at 8:17 am to
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I'd say he took a principled stand. Kind of flies in the face of Home Slice's claim that he was all things for all people.


unreal
Posted by Ponchy Tiger
Ponchatoula
Member since Aug 2004
49699 posts
Posted on 5/6/17 at 8:24 am to
I reluctantly voted for Trump based upon the fact that he was the only one with the balls to do what needed to be done to keep Hill Dog from winning. I know most disagree with me but I kind of like Kasich from what limited stuff I know about him.
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
56147 posts
Posted on 5/6/17 at 8:26 am to
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It seems like you're just making things up.


That he ran a limited race? It seems you are denying the truth.


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What inauthentic thing did he do?


IMO, trying to get people to believe he was a serious candidate with a very limited campaign schedule.


quote:

He kept his hat in the ring in case the convention was contested. Is that really wrong or inauthentic?



Nothing wrong with what he did, just like a carpetbagger. Wait around not engaging in the real fight just to see if any crumbs falls his way. He was the least sincere about his campaign than any of the top four or five that was left standing at the end of the campaign. IMO, he was the Jill Stein candidate of the Reps.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
122919 posts
Posted on 5/6/17 at 8:32 am to
I think Kasich ended up letting the media's line about him being the only real threat to Hillary get to his head.
Posted by Navytiger74
Member since Oct 2009
50458 posts
Posted on 5/6/17 at 8:38 am to
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Nothing wrong with what he did, just like a carpetbagger. Wait around not engaging in the real fight just to see if any crumbs falls his way. He was the least sincere about his campaign than any of the top four or five that was left standing at the end of the campaign. IMO, he was the Jill Stein candidate of the Reps.
Again. You're just throwing stones without really backing it up. And you're taking a lot of license with the term carpet-bagger, at least as applies to US politics.
Posted by AUbused
Member since Dec 2013
7827 posts
Posted on 5/6/17 at 8:46 am to
Just watched the episode. Probably the best ive ever seen Kasich myself having admittedly not seen a whole lot. I think the views he espoused would generally be supported by the vast majority of Americans.

That being said, i did not like him much at all in the debates because of how he handled himself. He was much better in the 1 on 1 setting.
This post was edited on 5/6/17 at 8:47 am
Posted by BestBanker
Member since Nov 2011
19467 posts
Posted on 5/6/17 at 9:11 am to
I was surprised to recently learn that he is from Ohio.
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
33131 posts
Posted on 5/6/17 at 9:25 am to
I know this is a positive to the people who support him, but he's cut from the same cloth of "compassionate conservativism" with a neocon flair as bush.


No thanks.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 5/6/17 at 9:31 am to
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1. His campaign got absolutely demoralized and demolished.


No, it didn't. He lost, but I'm fine with the campaign he ran.

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2. He was a sore loser about it, and didn't even show up to a convention in his own state, which is something that even officials from opposing parties customarily do.


That makes me like him even more.

This is the wrong year to get your arse hurt over customs and courtesies.

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3. He accepted money from Soros, showing his true colors.


Even if this were true (it isn't), it would be dwarfed by the amount Trump accepted from Soros.
Posted by JLivermore
Wendover
Member since Dec 2015
1734 posts
Posted on 5/6/17 at 9:32 am to
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I'd say he took a principled stand.


lol that's cute

Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 5/6/17 at 9:33 am to
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Nothing wrong with what he did, just like a carpetbagger. Wait around not engaging in the real fight just to see if any crumbs falls his way. He was the least sincere about his campaign than any of the top four or five that was left standing at the end of the campaign.


Someone doesn't know words very well.
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
33131 posts
Posted on 5/6/17 at 9:37 am to
The problem with what Kasich (and McCain, etc) did is the the fact he looked like he fought against Trump harder than he fought for himself in his campaign.

He was truly against Trump and gave an impression he would genuinely rather have Hillary.

That's a level of personal vendetta that makes one look extremely petty. We can disagree as to whether it's principled or what, but to a lot of folks it removed the one thing Kasich had going: likability.

There is a reason Rubio kind of fricked off after he was done.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 5/6/17 at 9:38 am to
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ah, the guy who never has a prayer of winning so you are safe to ascribe how perfect he would be in office without ever being proven wrong


This is ignorant, but not surprising.

Kasich has a history of governing that we can look at. You might not like his positions, but he is decent and principled. There's never been any reason to believe he'd suddenly change when given a different title.

Comparatively, we have very little to go on with Trump. So far, he's been extremely underwhelming, even to his supporters that are capable of honesty. "Kasich would do better than Trump" is an easy conclusion to reach, even if you don't like or agree with that.
Posted by llfshoals
Member since Nov 2010
20919 posts
Posted on 5/6/17 at 9:47 am to
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I actually haven't seen a lot of inconsistency in his positions. Do any come to mind? Kasich is a straight shooter. Pretty much the only one who didn't come out of this election looking like a weakling or a shithead.
The only person who came out looking weaker was Yeb.

He's always been a shite head. I figured that out the first time I met him.
Posted by jb4
Member since Apr 2013
13931 posts
Posted on 5/6/17 at 9:48 am to
Dude was a total dog in the the 90's He should have accepted trumps veep offer
This post was edited on 5/6/17 at 9:51 am
Posted by the LSUSaint
Member since Nov 2009
15444 posts
Posted on 5/6/17 at 9:56 am to
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He was a sore loser about it, and didn't even show up to a convention in his own state, which is something that even officials from opposing parties customarily do.


This this this...can't be said enough

He is a republican FIRST and no one gives a flying frick if he is hurt over Trump curb stomping him and setting records of votes while doing so. No fricking way he should have handled his bitch slapped loss like he did. He shows he is NOT made of the material it takes to be a leader of the party that he turns his back on now.

frick there pseudo republicans who aren't party first
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 5/6/17 at 9:59 am to
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He is a republican First...

frick there pseudo republicans who aren't party first




Holy frick.

It's amazing that you don't see the issue here.
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