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re: Governor Abbott releases statement on sgt perry

Posted on 4/10/23 at 8:13 am to
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 4/10/23 at 8:13 am to
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I hope Abbott goes through with the pardon and we don’t get some bullshite excuse that the parole board didn’t recommend a pardon.
Please explain the mechanism under Texas law by which Abbott would issue a pardon, absent such a recommendation. TIA
Posted by Decatur
Member since Mar 2007
31760 posts
Posted on 4/10/23 at 8:13 am to
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Now, all he can do is make requests to the board of pardons and parole, and then act upon its recommendations.


What is their role exactly? What can they consider? Any particular standard of review?
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
80163 posts
Posted on 4/10/23 at 8:16 am to
Past social media comments should have been excluded from evidence.

That invites mind reading. Just because you had a thought in the past doesn't mean you had the same thought during a particular event.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 4/10/23 at 8:17 am to
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Do you understand the voir dire process? If it was a political jury then his lawyer needs to be fired. He had every opportunity to strike jurors for cause. A jury is determined by both sides and must be unanimous.
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Does Texas allow unlimited strikes?

for cause? Yes.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 4/10/23 at 8:19 am to
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How do you know they were liberal? This is completely stupid!
In fairness, it is Austin. Reasonable inference.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 4/10/23 at 8:25 am to
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you would come to the same conclusion as the jury.
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You mean the conclusion that 12 average libs from Travis County ignore facts and decide the guy with the AK was no threat?

I don’t think you understand Travis County very well. Let’s be extremely generous and say that the county is 75% “leftist.“ That would mean that nine of the 12 jurors would be leftist, on average. Sure, 75% is enough to get a slate of “Leftists“ elected to every position of county government. But it is not enough to get a unanimous jury verdict.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 4/10/23 at 8:30 am to
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While it was a crap charge, if we and the jury have all of the information, how was he convicted, irrespective of the DA?
because a jury of his peers determined that his actions were not reasonable under the circumstances.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 4/10/23 at 8:31 am to
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Seems like a lot of disputed facts and a job for a jury!
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None of that is relevant to the fact that he was driving on a road in which he he had the right of way,

having the legal right-of-way does not justify shooting and killing jaywalkers.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 4/10/23 at 8:35 am to
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After hearing the entire case, the jury believed he did not act in self defense.
You clearly do not understand.

The fact of the shooting victim was a “BLM protester“ overrides any evidence which may have been presented at trial. it is all right there in the Texas Penal Code.
Posted by Lou Pai
Member since Dec 2014
29473 posts
Posted on 4/10/23 at 8:36 am to
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having the legal right-of-way does not justify shooting and killing jaywalkers.


No it does not

But it does mean he had a legal right to be there
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 4/10/23 at 8:38 am to
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I am supporting the rule of law.
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Can you point me in the direction of the law that says its legal to engage in rioting while armed?

how do you figure that the shooting victim was “rioting?“ in your mind, does jaywalking transmute a protest into a riot?
Posted by OccamsStubble
Member since Aug 2019
9005 posts
Posted on 4/10/23 at 8:39 am to
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having the legal right-of-way does not justify shooting and killing jaywalkers, but that changes if the jaywalkers have loaded AK 47s and point them at you


agree
Posted by bayoudude
Member since Dec 2007
25841 posts
Posted on 4/10/23 at 8:47 am to
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say that the county is 75% “leftist.“ That would mean that nine of the 12 jurors would be leftist, on average. Sure, 75% is enough to get a slate of “Leftists“ elected to every position of county government. But it is not enough to get a unanimous jury verdict.


I would wager that the jury was made up solely of hard core leftists by design
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
26944 posts
Posted on 4/10/23 at 8:47 am to
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in your mind, does jaywalking transmute a protest into a riot?


In your mind, is jaywalking the same thing as swarming a car and beating on it? Because around here jaywalking usually involves avoiding cars, not surrounding them.
Posted by Open Your Eyes
Member since Nov 2012
10369 posts
Posted on 4/10/23 at 8:51 am to
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how do you figure that the shooting victim was “rioting?“ in your mind, does jaywalking transmute a protest into a riot?

Ah yes, the fake lawyer that thinks rittenhouse committed murder, the mccloskeys destroyed their own gate, 9/11 was the result of US isolationism, conservatives are obsessed with wakanda, etc. has now entered the thread to defend this latest example of political persecution. This time by equivocating a mob of protestors illegally blocking a public road and surrounding a vehicle with jaywalking.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
57100 posts
Posted on 4/10/23 at 9:00 am to
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Go stalk someoms else you chronic loser.


I wasn’t talking about you, loser. You haven’t ever practiced any kind of law. I was referring to the poster with “lawyer” in his name, moron. Try to keep up you uneducated far left nutbag.
Posted by thebigmuffaletta
Member since Aug 2017
15474 posts
Posted on 4/10/23 at 9:02 am to
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does jaywalking transmute a protest into a riot?


I’ve never seen a jaywalker surround a vehicle and point a weapon at the driver
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
26944 posts
Posted on 4/10/23 at 9:05 am to
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I’ve never seen a jaywalker surround a vehicle and point a weapon at the driver


Guy gets back from a timeout and just immediately empties his diaper all over a thread where a violent a-hole threatened the wrong person. It's almost impressive.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
57100 posts
Posted on 4/10/23 at 9:06 am to
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because a jury of his peers determined that his actions were not reasonable under the circumstances.


It’s reverse jury nullification and you know it, Hank. You can look at the picture of the mob surrounding his car and a gun being pointed at him. The elements needed for the affirmative defense are there. You know it and I know it. You are just playing devils advocate. You’re not an idiot like Texridder. Just stop.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
42236 posts
Posted on 4/10/23 at 9:10 am to
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In your mind, is jaywalking the same thing as swarming a car and beating on it?


I’m of the opinion that Hank is a leftist parading as a libertarian. I would wager s moon pie that his legal background includes stints associated with either the ACLU or Southern Poverty Law Center.
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